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O.city 08-30-2010 06:26 PM

It was also nice to see the chiefs defense playing with some intensity. Maybe if they can get some things to go their way and a little confidence things will change.

O.city 08-30-2010 06:27 PM

Mecca, like to know your thoughts on Studebaker?

Mecca 08-30-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 6965520)
Mecca, like to know your thoughts on Studebaker?

We'll see what happens, I'm skeptical of how much he'll play since he's in a position where an old dog sits and we know how that went last year..

O.city 08-30-2010 06:42 PM

Yeah you would think if he continues this pace and play that he will surely be moved up as Vrabel is looking OLD... if he plays though what are your thoughts. He looked good the other night... Quick around the edge multiple moves and good against the run.... if he actually worked out and DJ played up to potential and Belcher worked out the LB's would actually be pretty good.

Mecca 08-30-2010 06:44 PM

DJ play to potential, never gonna happen, probably should let go of that pipe dream.

O.city 08-30-2010 06:44 PM

Also if Cassel were to significantly improve, with the schedule we play what do you think the record could be..

Seems to be that the talent is there, atleast the first team, to be a better football team, if asomoah turned into greatness and Richardson was serviceable at RT, what this team could be

Dayze 08-30-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6965110)
Wk1: SD @ KC - LOSE
Wk2: KC @ CLE -LOSE
Wk3: SF @ KC - LOSE
Wk4: BYE
Wk5: KC @ IND - LOSE
Wk6: KC @ HOU - LOSE
Wk7: JAC @ KC - WIN
Wk8: BUF @ KC - WIN
Wk9: KC @ OAK - LOSE
Wk10: KC @ DEN - LOSE
Wk11: ARI @ KC -WIN
Wk12: KC @ SEA - LOSE
Wk13: DEN @ KC - LOSE
Wk14: KC @ SD - LOSE
Wk15: KC @ STL - WIN
Wk16: TEN @ KC - LOSE
Wk17: OAK @ KC - LOSE

4-12

Wow, that's worse than I imagined. Hopefully, they'll sneak in a few more wins, maybe Denver.

3-5 at home and 1-7 on the road.


^that. Thanks Dane, you saved me from typing.:D

O.city 08-30-2010 06:46 PM

I know the DJ thing prob. is a pipe dream but it is a contract year. and he actually looked better against the run friday....was impressed with Belcher the most

DaneMcCloud 08-30-2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 6965556)
Also if Cassel were to significantly improve, with the schedule we play what do you think the record could be..

Seems to be that the talent is there, atleast the first team, to be a better football team, if asomoah turned into greatness and Richardson was serviceable at RT, what this team could be

Dude, you're getting WAY ahead of yourself.

Cassel has NOT improved and most likely, will not improve.

Asamoah has not lived up to his potential and looks to be a least a year away as a starting NFL lineman.

Richardson is still much better on the left side than the right and he's below average on the right side. He doesn't look like a natural right tackle (which he's not) and even though he may be the eventual starter on the right side, that's hardly an endorsement of his abilities. It's an outright indictment of the right tackles currently on the roster.

O.city 08-30-2010 06:49 PM

Yeah guess forgot to say was meaning within the next year or two ...

prolly not gonna happen this year.

O.city 08-30-2010 06:50 PM

yeah thought asomoah was a great pick ......any ideas whats goin on with him?

O.city 08-30-2010 06:50 PM

Learning curve maybe?

chiefzilla1501 08-30-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 6965552)
Yeah you would think if he continues this pace and play that he will surely be moved up as Vrabel is looking OLD... if he plays though what are your thoughts. He looked good the other night... Quick around the edge multiple moves and good against the run.... if he actually worked out and DJ played up to potential and Belcher worked out the LB's would actually be pretty good.

I don't think DJ will live up to his potential and I think Belcher is too undersized to play the position. I think Hali and Studebaker opposite each other could be decent, and it looks to me like Dorsey and Jackson will both do a better job of opening holes up front. Especially Dorsey, who was drawing a bunch of doubles this preseason. Those interior holes are going to be enough to hold our defense back, plus I don't know if Studebaker is a great depth guy or if he can actually be the kind of top starter we'd need at that position. Our defense will be improved, but it's still got a long way to go.

On offense, we're still going to try to win despite Matt Cassel rather than because of him.

I think we have a chance of being average on both offense and defense, but nothing more. We'll probably win 6 or 7 and stay close in a few others. Don't walk into the season with high hopes for wins/losses or you'll just end up getting frustrated.

DaneMcCloud 08-30-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 6965570)
Learning curve maybe?

I'm sure there's a learning curve involved but I also happen to think that Bill Muir sucks ass.

Ralphy Boy 08-30-2010 06:51 PM

I obviously don't coach for a reason and I'm not a scout, so I clearly don't know WTF I'm talking about, therefore I definitely shouldn't question the divine wisdom of Pioli & Haley... but I will anyway. How this entire offseason and draft could pass without addressing A) our bottom of the league ranking in pass rush and B) bottom of the league run defense is beyond me. It is unfathomable to me that either of them could watch game footage of Jerome Harrison, coming within 10 yards of setting the single game rushing record and not say "Whatever the f@ck we do, we have to figure out a way to stop the run!"

If our run defense gets shredded like that again this season, the neglect of addressing that glaring weakness should be punishable by death. Its fundamental football. The two keys to a good defense are stopping the run and getting to the QB. We haven't done either of those things well since before the current regime arrived and they have done little, if anything, to improve that. Until they pull their heads out of each others asses, they don't deserve to have a winning record.


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