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RealSNR 01-03-2012 06:38 PM

Mr. Direckshun goes to the mod forum

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Phobia 01-03-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8260065)
Once again.

I started a mock draft thread. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT.

It consolidates all the mocks and allows for draft conversation to flow freely.

Then a mod moved it.

To an unrelated forum.

Why would you do that, then continually bring up these bullshit complaints? Shall I dig it up from Casino Planet?

You needn't dig it up. I believe a mod could have made a mistake. It's entirely possible. Did you contact a mod at that time or have you just let this fester ever since then?

Phobia 01-03-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8258742)
Threads like this crack me up. If there's one thing the mods around here have repeatedly shown they don't give a shit about (especially DaFace), it's the will of the people. I assume they'll solicit opinions, figure out what the majority wants, and do the exact opposite.

ChiefsPlanet! Built on every American principle EXCEPT democracy! LMAO

And FWIW, I don't give a shit one way or another.

You really feel this way? I couldn't disagree more. The colors, the logo, the header, policies, the site name - names for forums, all of these things have been contributed by the general population. Really don't understand why anybody would think differently. Now its clear that the solution the mods suggested isn't popular with the regulars who have added their opinion so we're backing off of it and trying to give you something you'll like better.

MoreLemonPledge 01-03-2012 07:51 PM

CHIEFSPLANET IS SERIOUS SHIT

the Talking Can 01-03-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8260149)
The point is, web usability has a lot to do with reducing the amount of scrolling people have to do. The stat I've heard over and over again is that users spend 80% of their time looking at content "above the fold" - in other words, above the bottom of the screen when they haven't scrolled down at all. That's undoubtedly way too high for regulars around here, but it's probably close for people visiting for the first time. Too much scrolling is irritating, and when people have to do it too much, it makes a site seem clunky and unprofessional.

I know we're not trying to make money around here, but I've always "admin-ed" around here with the #1 goal of improving usability. I know it doesn't seem like much, but I honestly think less of sites like the Orange Mane and Pats Planet when I visit just because they're not designed as well. Their color schemes, post layouts, and excessive amounts of stickies, subforums, and random youtube videos at the top of the page makes it a slower information consuming experience. My goal is to help people absorb the maximum amount of information in the quickest amount of time, which means reducing any of that crap that isn't necessary. That includes that little 1/4" of space. It's not much, but when you load a page a hundred times a day, it adds up subconsciously.

Regardless, there may be a way to make this work and let people choose on their own, so stay tuned.

the lounge displays below the fold for me on my laptop (and for many i'd assume) as is, one more forum makes no difference...

do you receive feedback from people saying they won't visit or enjoy the planet less based on there being 4 or 5 forums listed? I would find it hard to believe...in the absence of any data it's a non-issue...

you seem convinced people care about the things you care about, for reasons that can't be substantiated...

now that the draft forum has been added, my experience of the planet is...exactly the same...

MoreLemonPledge 01-03-2012 07:56 PM

I honestly didn't even notice that Draft Planet had been added to the top until now.

the Talking Can 01-03-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8260462)
I honestly didn't even notice that Draft Planet had been added to the top until now.

i think you meant say that your experience of the planet has been ruined and you are never coming back...

MoreLemonPledge 01-03-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8260483)
i think you meant say that your experience of the planet has been ruined and you are never coming back...

Well the usability sure has been diminished.

/just kidding
/don't ban me

dirk digler 01-03-2012 08:05 PM

wow I use to be able to view the Lounge without scrolling now all I see is a bunch of sub-forums. This sucks and who ever's idea this was I would like to thank you with a big middle finger

Phobia 01-03-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8260451)
you seem convinced people care about the things you care about, for reasons that can't be substantiated...

now that the draft forum has been added, my experience of the planet is...exactly the same...

We don't care how many forums are up top either. We're here. We're not leaving. You're right. It doesn't change how fellow-addicts feel about their experience here. Keeping the number of sub-forums visible up top is more about staying clean and crisp for n00bs who come to visit the forum. We must remain appealing to visitors or this site will eventually dry up.

DaFace 01-03-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8260451)
the lounge displays below the fold for me on my laptop (and for many i'd assume) as is, one more forum makes no difference...

do you receive feedback from people saying they won't visit or enjoy the planet less based on there being 4 or 5 forums listed? I would find it hard to believe...in the absence of any data it's a non-issue...

you seem convinced people care about the things you care about, for reasons that can't be substantiated...

now that the draft forum has been added, my experience of the planet is...exactly the same...

I've never acted like it's a huge deal for people who are here, but cleanliness does make a difference for new users.

Also, keep in mind that the practice of alternating DP and CP predated my mod-dom around here by quite a few years. I just get to be the poster child because I was the one who started engaging people in the discussion about it.

MoreLemonPledge 01-03-2012 08:11 PM

I don't know what alternating DP means, but color me intrigued.

the Talking Can 01-03-2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8260501)
We don't care how many forums are up top either. We're here. We're not leaving. You're right. It doesn't change how fellow-addicts feel about their experience here. Keeping the number of sub-forums visible up top is more about staying clean and crisp for n00bs who come to visit the forum. We must remain appealing to visitors or this site will eventually dry up.

again, this is off point...the extra forum isn't going affect people who come to a message board looking for a forum...this isn't Huffington Post...the content of the site is a level deep inside threads, users understand that, as users understand and expect the content of other types of sites to be presented differently

and of course this will be easy to confirm...if the site 'dries up' we'll know it was a mistake...but it won't have any measurable effect, if you even cared to somehow measure it...or just check the analytics...

SPchief 01-03-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 8260515)
I don't know what alternating DP means, but color me intrigued.

Anton and GoChiefs would like to meet you out back.

dirk digler 01-03-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8260501)
We don't care how many forums are up top either. We're here. We're not leaving. You're right. It doesn't change how fellow-addicts feel about their experience here. Keeping the number of sub-forums visible up top is more about staying clean and crisp for n00bs who come to visit the forum. We must remain appealing to visitors or this site will eventually dry up.

We just need to combine everything under 1 forum and re-live the good ole days


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