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pr_capone 01-06-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefPote (Post 8268440)
Yeah big ****ing deal alright. I got ****in cheated in the damn gladiator games. :harumph:

I got screwed in Survivor too. I'm seeing a pattern develop here.

Be careful Pest... I may just have to blowy ou to bits.

HemiEd 01-06-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8268997)
I remember back in '09, oh sooooo loooonngggg ago. And dumbasses like myself were actually excited about hiring Pioli.

Oops.

So was I. But like Clark, I have my gun cocked waiting to see what he does next and if it works, great.

If not http://i41.tinypic.com/kt35z.jpg

Chiefnj2 01-06-2012 01:46 PM

If McDaniels demands that KC move up and grab RGIII, I'll welcome him with open arms.

O.city 01-06-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8269022)
If McDaniels demands that KC move up and grab RGIII, I'll welcome him with open arms.

This.


Maybe it will finally open Piolis eyes if wonderboy Mcdaniels says he doesn't wanna work with Cassel.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-06-2012 01:50 PM

Remove yourself from the situation.

If a GM brought in a questionable QB and gave him $60 million before he'd taken a snap when we already owned his rights for two years, drafted a complementary player at #3 overall, sinking another $60 million, hired a lunatic coach who was fired after 2.5 years, and then his solution to this problem was to bring a guy as offensive coordinator who is a pariah in the league, who has been caught cheating, and whose offenses are incompetent, and then wants to stick with said QB despite every objective analysis showing that he is one of the worst players at his position, what has he done to warrant keeping his job?

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-06-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8269022)
If McDaniels demands that KC move up and grab RGIII, I'll welcome him with open arms.

Because offensive coordinators control decisions on 1st round draft picks.

O.city 01-06-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8269037)
Remove yourself from the situation.

If a GM brought in a questionable QB and gave him $60 million before he'd taken a snap when we already owned his rights for two years, drafted a complementary player at #3 overall, sinking another $60 million, hired a lunatic coach who was fired after 2.5 years, and then his solution to this problem was to bring a guy as offensive coordinator who is a pariah in the league, who has been caught cheating, and whose offenses are incompetent, and then wants to stick with said QB despite every objective analysis showing that he is one of the worst players at his position, what has he done to warrant keeping his job?

This.

Wow, hadn't looked at it that way. Very humbling.

How bad is it that the best move of all those things is drafting Tyson Jackson?

KC_Lee 01-06-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8269037)
Remove yourself from the situation.

If a GM brought in a questionable QB and gave him $60 million before he'd taken a snap when we already owned his rights for two years, drafted a complementary player at #3 overall, sinking another $60 million, hired a lunatic coach who was fired after 2.5 years, and then his solution to this problem was to bring a guy as offensive coordinator who is a pariah in the league, who has been caught cheating, and whose offenses are incompetent, and then wants to stick with said QB despite every objective analysis showing that he is one of the worst players at his position, what has he done to warrant keeping his job?

Well that certianly is a bucket of ice cold water on an other wise nice day.

SAUTO 01-06-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8269037)
Remove yourself from the situation.

If a GM brought in a questionable QB and gave him $60 million before he'd taken a snap when we already owned his rights for two years, drafted a complementary player at #3 overall, sinking another $60 million, hired a lunatic coach who was fired after 2.5 years, and then his solution to this problem was to bring a guy as offensive coordinator who is a pariah in the league, who has been caught cheating, and whose offenses are incompetent, and then wants to stick with said QB despite every objective analysis showing that he is one of the worst players at his position, what has he done to warrant keeping his job?

Has anything in bold been confirmed yet?

DaWolf 01-06-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8269003)
When I read this, it just strikes me as a "Well what can we do? Might as well just go with it kind of attitude."

That's the part that bugs me. They're suppose to be competing for our dollar. If their plan isn't to do that, then we have every right to show our displeasure and not attend games.

Absolutely. And if they lose, that's what will happen. That's what's been happening.

I have no issues expressing displeasure with the situation. But what I'm talking about here in regards to the displeasure with McDaniels as the OC is because it seems to be disliked mostly due to the idea that it means Matt Cassel will be here. Well, unfortunately, Matt Cassel will be here in 2012 with or without McDaniels. So, here are the options:

1) Matt Cassel + an OC he has had some success with in the past and runs a similar system to what Weis ran in his time here
2) Matt Cassel + someone who is not a proven OC
3) Matt Cassel + someone who is a former OL coach
4) Matt Cassel + someone who may have done a decent job elsewhere in the past but who has never worked with Cassel and who may bring a totally different style of offense that everyone will have to re-learn all over again

If the organization isn't getting rid of Cassel, then as a fan you have the right to express displeasure, not go to games, and not spend money on the team. But I'm still going to watch them on TV, and God help me, I'd take option 1 every time if Cassel is going to be behind center in Week 1.

I get the displeasure, but I think it's not really about McDaniels, it's about the idea that Cassel is going to be the QB...

Chiefnj2 01-06-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8269037)
Remove yourself from the situation.

If a GM brought in a questionable QB and gave him $60 million before he'd taken a snap when we already owned his rights for two years,

You would have preferred that the GM pay Cassel the franchise # for two years - about 30 million, which is about the same as the 28 million in guaranteed money in the contract Cassel signed? You are really upset about that?

FringeNC 01-06-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8269094)
You would have preferred that the GM pay Cassel the franchise # for two years - about 30 million, which is about the same as the 28 million in guaranteed money in the contract Cassel signed? You are really upset about that?

Yep, we were screwed on bargaining position given that Cassel had the 1 year $14m contract in hand. However, did the rest of it have to be so front-loaded? Cassel is relatively cheap by standards of starting QBs for the remainder of his contract. Of course, by performance.....

Frosty 01-06-2012 02:16 PM

Does anyone else see this as a sign that Pioli has decided on a head coach already (probably Romeo)? I think the Del Rio interview is/was probably for DC and they want to make the announcement as a package deal.

O.city 01-06-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8269113)
Does anyone else see this as a sign that Pioli has decided on a head coach already (probably Romeo)? I think the Del Rio interview is/was probably for DC and they want to make the announcement as a package deal.

Romeo as HC, Del Rio as DC, and Mcd as OC?

Thoughts?

Chiefnj2 01-06-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8269113)
Does anyone else see this as a sign that Pioli has decided on a head coach already (probably Romeo)? I think the Del Rio interview is/was probably for DC and they want to make the announcement as a package deal.

If Del Rio is hired as DC, I hope that on his first day of the job he shows up in the parking lot and Otis Taylor hits him with a sledge and says "paybacks a bitch".


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