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KCrockaholic 02-10-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 8364253)
What if we let Bowe go, but signed Manning and persued Wayne per his request?
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That would be reeruned.

Mr. Laz 02-10-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 8364253)
What if we let Bowe go, but signed Manning and persued Wayne per his request?
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I'm open to any aggressive 'plan'

I just want to step-up and get shit done and not be so passive.


identify problem ... come up with solution ... execute

if it doesn't work, try again

If we do go old with Manning/Wayne then we HAVE to aggressively work on replacements for both so that in 2/3 years are aren't screwed.

O.city 02-10-2012 06:09 PM

No to Wayne, yes to Bowe.

Mr. Laz 02-10-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8364260)
No to Wayne, yes to Bowe.

Even if getting switching from Bowe to Wayne gets us Payton Manning instead of Cassel?

The Bad Guy 02-10-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8364223)
Bad Guy, was it you that said Bowe was wanting Holmes money?

Nope wasn't me. If that's what Bowe wants, he'll get that easy.

KurtCobain 02-10-2012 06:12 PM

I think Manning's gonna want Wayne. Does it make sense to go after him once Bowe is locked up? With Breaston and Baldwin? His name doesn't even start with a B.
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KCrockaholic 02-10-2012 06:12 PM

I'll draft Robert Griffin if it means we have to find a way to draft Kendall Wright.

Mr. Laz 02-10-2012 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 8364271)
I think Manning's gonna want Wayne. Does it make sense to go after him once Bowe is locked up? With Breaston and Baldwin? His name doesn't even start with a B.
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tag Bowe and wait to find out what Manning is about.

we should tag/trade Bowe regardless

Hopefully sign Carr before deadline so we have the option

DaWolf 02-10-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 8364148)
Am I the only one who thinks this cap space has more to do with Carl Peterson then Scott Pioli? Outside of the '08 draft we've had I think 2 players in Carl Petersons era get second contracts. It will be 3 with Bowe, but that is still ridiculous how bad we were at drafting under Carl. That is where I believe all this money is coming from. It also helps that we resigned Jamaal Charles and DJ well under the market value

No. I know it is the trend to try and criticize everything Pioli does, but he's been smart with the cap so far. According to Clark, they capitalized on having a very young team with a bunch of cheaper contracts for the last few years by re-upping some of their key players, and instead of just throwing money at random players to fill out the roster (Think Carl going out and getting Carlton Gray and handing Dan Williams a huge deal) they used that extra cap room to carry over what he called "cap credits" to this year. He also indicated that over the next two years, the Chiefs are in a position, both in terms of the cap, and in terms of the maturity of their team to be in a position to add key pieces through free agency, to go out and target the guys we need to take us to the next level.

Now of course this could be all talk and the proof will be in the pudding. There have to be good free agents out there to sign, as opposed to the relatively weak FA class of last year. And there is no excuse for not bringing Bowe and Carr back, so those better get done. But we're in a real good position right now, and we've got a head coach in place that most players actually wouldn't mind playing for, as opposed to Haley and his rep...

O.city 02-10-2012 06:20 PM

Laz, you not a Bowe fan?

Mr. Laz 02-10-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8364287)
Laz, you not a Bowe fan?

i'm a fan of whatever will make the team better.

O.city 02-10-2012 06:24 PM

Good call.

BigRock 02-10-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 8363479)
But think about this. At some point the Chiefs will be FORCED to spend the majority of that cap room. Possibly this year, and 2013 the Chiefs will make major splashes in free agency because of the new cap rules put in place.

Prepare for disappointment.

The new salary minimum (starting in 2013) refers to actual cash being spent, not a team's individual cap room. To meet the minimum, a team's cash spending will have to be at least 89% of the cap limit.

Last year, the cap was about $120 million. Going into the season, the Chiefs' cap figure was like $20M under that. But according to the Star, their cash spending was $119 million, well above the 89% minimum. If the minimum had been in place, they wouldn't have had to spend another dime.

They'll have to continue to spend more money as the cap continues to rise. But if their cash spending continues to fall in that same range relative to the cap limit, there's never going to be a point where they'll be forced to make a drastic increase in their cap room.

Frankie 02-10-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8363483)
This.

$64 million?


Sign Bowe, Carr, Nicks and Soliai.

Ooooooh..... I need a cigarette now.

keg in kc 02-10-2012 06:58 PM

That's a good thing in February.


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