The problem I see with some in the fan base is the over-evaluation of talent that is on this team.

The Chiefs have SUCKED through Gunther, Herm, and Todd. Now that the team is beginning to improve, I think much of the fan base feels as if a lot more of the players are irreplacable and that opinion is skewed by 10+ years of suckage.

IMO the only player on this team that has potential as a future HOF and would be VERY difficult to replace would be Eric Berry. Other than that, I ain't losing sleep over any player losing his job for a potential upgrade.

If i had to pick a side, I'd pick Direkshun's in this argument, because in no way do i believe the Chiefs are a bottom 10 team in terms of talent. I'd put them 15-20. This is ignoring the QB obviously.

The one thing I'd like to weigh in on is Bowe.

I see "Bowe is the same receiver" get mentioned all the time.

That's such BS.

Bowe is a far better WR today than he was his Rookie/Sophmore seasons. His numbers may be the same, but numbers don't tell the whole story and you guys know it.

He looks far more polished out there today then he did before. I'd venture to say he looks quicker as well. He's more consistent too.

He is NOT the same WR he was 3 years ago.

Without Cassell this is a top 15 team, with him they have a shot at the whole thing.

Yes. The Chiefs won the division two seasons ago with Cassel and a full allotment of players, but somehow with MORE talent and those '10 players coming back...healthy...we're one of the five worst teams in the league.

Makes sense.
:rolleyes:

Insane, people just love to bitch.

That would speak to the 'overvaluation' of the talent on the team.

Just because you see a better player than the guy we had 4 years ago, doesn't mean he really is.

He's essentially the same guy. Still has the same maddening drops. Still capable of the same highlight reel catches. He's a damn good WR, but he was a damn good WR from the moment he put on the uniform.

To me, this is the most talented Chiefs team since the 1997 Chiefs. They're a better overall team than the 2003 Chiefs because this team actually has a great defense.

This team has an above average offense with Charles and Moeaki coming back, along with the familiarity of Steve Breaston and Baldwin in year 2 of their contracts.

Cassel is the only true weak link on the offense. You could also include Lilja. But his replacement is already waiting in line.

This takes me to 1997.

This is the most talented team since 1997.

Obviously, if this team had Trent Green the expectations would be the Super Bowl.

My thoughts exactly.

Hahaha

Some of you have lost your minds.

Even Hamas said we are a superbowl team albeit qb.

Then we have OTWP saying we are the 26th best teM in the NFL...buy will probably win 8 games.

I can't wait to read the rest of this later.

Lots of laughs.

He's more consistent now than before. He's a better, more polished player now. You said he was the same guy. He isn't. Same goes for DJ, Hali, etc.

This, he was good, but he is approaching the elite talent level now. Of course some growth is expected, but I give a lot of the credit to Haley, as that is where his expertise was.
Anything above a receiver's coach for Haley, was invoking the peter principle.

Hell, the defense alone makes this a middle of the pack team. This is a braindead list.

DUDE.

I keep telling you:

You can't look at last year's team as a legit 7-win team.

We got practically gifted five of those wins because we played Caleb Hanie, Tim Tebow, Donovan McNabb, Curtis Painter and Kyle Boller.

Hanie and Tebow threw up all of 3 points against us. Boller threw up 0.

Painter sucked for an entire scoreless half, paving the way for our "comeback." McNabb was McNabb.

Last year's Chiefs were a 4-12 team that ran into some really shitty quarterbacks. I would be shocked if we held 3 teams to 3 or fewer points this season.

That is the stupidest logic I've ever heard. ****, you are the worst football poster on this forum.

By your logic, every team should start deducting wins off their schedule because they beat teams with bad QB's.

I swear, you are borderline downs.

How many wins did the pats get that don't count? How about GB?