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KCWolfman 12-04-2012 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9179158)
Odd how so many here are pretending they knew or understood a person they never even met.

That's it in a nutshell.

And they will most likely never know. But we will be overcome with Dr. Phil's and Oprah's telling us what went wrong and how the world would be better if we just just listened to them.

Hammock Parties 12-04-2012 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179161)
That the Hunt's have no prior knowledge of their players mentally stability is the first statement that comes to mind to me.

Pioli is exactly the kind of guy that would keep them in the dark.

DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179143)
So, Larry's second contract was signed without the Hunt's knowledge as well?

That crafty bastard.

Go back and re-read what I said.

:shake:

Are you drunk or something?

Sorter 12-04-2012 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 9179152)
Two notable symptoms of CTE are increased aggression and poor impulse control. The very things that cause crimes of passion.

Nothing about the crime dismisses brain trauma as a possible factor. Nothing will except an examination of Belcher's brain.

Admittedly, I know nothing about examining the brain for CTE. Is that going to be even possible in this case given Belcher shot himself in the head?

I think it would be extremely interesting/beneficial if they are able to find out if he had CTE.

KCWolfman 12-04-2012 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9179163)
Pioli is exactly the kind of guy that would keep them in the dark.

That doesn't make your statement accurate. It is still unfounded gossip, just like Dane's BS about LJ.

DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 9179152)
Two notable symptoms of CTE are increased aggression and poor impulse control. The very things that cause crimes of passion.

Nothing about the crime dismisses brain trauma as a possible factor. Nothing will except an examination of Belcher's brain.

Can doctors fully asses his brain? He put a bullet through his head. This isn't like Seau or Duerson or Macky, etc.

KCWolfman 12-04-2012 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9179165)
Admittedly, I know nothing about examining the brain for CTE. Is that going to be even possible in this case given Belcher shot himself in the head?

I think it would be extremely interesting/beneficial if they are able to find out if he had CTE.

Depends on the bullet type and entry/exit wound.

As KC Connection pointed out, no one knows crap.... and they probably never will. But plenty of people will blame someone they don't like.

Sorter 12-04-2012 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179168)
Can doctors fully asses his brain? He put a bullet through his head. This isn't like Seau or Duerson or Macky, etc.

Q

:D

DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179161)
That the Hunt's have no prior knowledge of their players mentally stability is the first statement that comes to mind to me.

So, you believe that Lamar Hunt, who was suffering from severe cancer in 2003, was told before LJ was selected in the first round of that draft, that he held a gun to a woman's face and signed off on that?

Is that your statement?

HMc 12-04-2012 03:08 AM

Dane was mates with Lamar so he probably knows this stuff

Hammock Parties 12-04-2012 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179166)
That doesn't make your statement accurate. It is still unfounded gossip, just like Dane's BS about LJ.

So you think Clark Hunt had full knowledge of Belcher's issues and allowed him to remain a Chief.

Sounds plausible based on the history of this organization.

WV 12-04-2012 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179018)
I can't answer that question.

But according to recent reports, he and the club where aware of their issues, which is obviously why he, Gibbs and Crennel knew that they were in no danger when he stormed the gates on Saturday.

This may end far worse for Pioli and Crennel than anyone could have possibly imagined.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179056)
And I think that you're speculating.

It's clear that he had problems and the Chiefs were aware of said problems.

You have absolutely no idea if the team psychologist warned Pioli or the organization that Belcher was on edge and ready to snap.

Pioli, Crennel and Gibbs calm collectively calm demeanor on Saturday while dealing with an armed man that admitted to murder tells me that that weren't shocked or stunned to hear that news.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179071)
You are assuming. I am not.

Pioli, Crennel and Gibbs were unafraid of a man holding a gun AFTER he confessed to murder.

That tells us that he wasn't on some muderous rampage. He wanted her dead to such a large degree that he didn't mind taking his own life as the endgame.


The dude was seriously jacked.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179145)
What the **** is wrong with you?

Please link us to a quote in which I stated that anyone knew Belcher would snap.

It's like the reerun patrol in here tonight.


You have been acting all along like they knew the situation and then through deductive reasoning deduced that they were safe, but then weren't shocked that he killed someone. You've been acting like you knew the whole situation from the beginning of this thread and with your first statement injected blame on Pioli and Crennel. Like they should have known.

DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179166)
That doesn't make your statement accurate. It is still unfounded gossip, just like Dane's BS about LJ.

What BS?

You've gone full ****ing reerun.

KCWolfman 12-04-2012 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179172)
So, you believe that Lamar Hunt, who was suffering from severe cancer in 2003, was told before LJ was selected in the first round of that draft, that he held a gun to a woman's face and signed off on that?

Is that your statement?

I don't know. As a responsible business manager, I would feel obligated to report such information to the owner of my company.

If you have other information I would love to hear the proof in the pudding. Or perhaps you dated a psychic as well?

KCWolfman 12-04-2012 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9179174)
So you think Clark Hunt had full knowledge of Belcher's issues and allowed him to remain a Chief.

Sounds plausible based on the history of this organization.

I don't know.

Obviously, Only you and Dane can glean the mind of the Hunt's.


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