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Pasta Little Brioni 12-27-2012 09:40 AM

How did Carson not make it. Look at all those yards/Reighters

Strongside 12-27-2012 09:43 AM

Wow. This is surprising to say the least. Berry is very respected by other players around the league, apparently. Kind of pissed that Houston didn't get in...same with Flowers.

jspchief 12-27-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9243424)
Did Carr get in?

No. But to be fair, Clark's overflowing wallet didn't either.

Hootie 12-27-2012 09:59 AM

well Berry has looked good the past two weeks...I still have high hopes for my guy Scary Berry!

As for the Succop nonsense...he's a league average kicker who seems to always have a timely miss. Janikowski didn't make the Pro Bowl and he was 31-34 and his shortest miss was 51...so please, don't try and say Succop was anywhere close to deserving, lol

AussieChiefsFan 12-27-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9243546)
well Berry has looked good the past two weeks...I still have high hopes for my guy Scary Berry!

As for the Succop nonsense...he's a league average kicker who seems to always have a timely miss. Janikowski didn't make the Pro Bowl and he was 31-34 and his shortest miss was 51...so please, don't try and say Succop was anywhere close to deserving, lol

janikowski didnt make it? :shake: wow

Hootie 12-27-2012 10:11 AM

well Phil Dawson was 28-29

all kickers kick 80% now (except Mason Crosby, not sure how he has a job)

our kicker is extraordinarily average

lcarus 12-27-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9242329)
Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS

Hali wasn't even the best outside linebacker on his own team

I'm not saying I agree that Hali should definitely be a Pro Bowler, but what a flimsy argument. Yeah a team can't possibly have TWO good OLBs can they? Pricko...

Bob Dole 12-27-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 9243325)
It was just brought to my attention that not One Charger made the Pro Bowl.

Crybaby isn't a real position on any team except Sandy Eggo.

htismaqe 12-27-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9243578)
I'm not saying I agree that Hali should definitely be a Pro Bowler, but what a flimsy argument. Yeah a team can't possibly have TWO good OLBs can they? Pricko...

Not a flimsy argument at all. Justin Houston arguably deserved to go more than Hali.

Rain Man 12-27-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by themanwithnoname (Post 9243303)
I wrote a post that Pioli should have drafted zombie Derrick Thomas (among other clearly sarcastic things) and had people seriously ask if it was a joke. People around here are not so great in the thinking department. Then again, most of them you could say something that is clearly a joke, then in the very next sentence put a disclaimer saying it is, and they would not have even read that far before posting their response. Then years later they will claim that you seriously believed something based on them not understanding that it was a joke.


Are you nuts? There's no way that a zombie Derrick Thomas would have any speed around the corner. Zombies are slow as molasses. Do you pay any attention to the combine results at all?

Rausch 12-27-2012 02:06 PM

I'd ask how Berry made it but I'm familiar with the voting process...

whoman69 12-27-2012 02:10 PM

Houston deserved it more than Hali. Berry did not deserve it, just a rash of injuries at the position. I would imagine Flowers will make the team after all the others turn it down or have their mystery injuries.

Rausch 12-27-2012 02:11 PM

Flowers should have made it and Berry/Hali shouldn't have...

mcaj22 12-27-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9243578)
I'm not saying I agree that Hali should definitely be a Pro Bowler, but what a flimsy argument. Yeah a team can't possibly have TWO good OLBs can they? Pricko...

Justin Houston is far and away the better natrual talent and probably the best player on the defense if you consider age, potential, current talent and what he could be in a couple years.

he's performing at a near ELITE level in only his 2nd year.

It took Tamba and DJ like 6 years to sniff that kind of production

listopencil 12-27-2012 02:53 PM

Why the 2-13 Chiefs sent five players to the Pro Bowl
TJ Johnson Dec 27, 2012 4:00 PM

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...o-the-pro-bowl


Dustin Colquitt - Punter

This doesn't come as a complete shock, does it? If your team is completely average, your punter is going to have plenty of opportunities to get his leg into a few punts (as did the Broncos' own Britton Colquitt last year). According to Pro Football Focus, Dustin Colquitt has been the seventh highest-rated punter in the league.

He's also placed the second most balls inside the opponent's 20-yard line. Combine this with a respectible average of 46.2 yards per kick, and you have a punter who makes a decent case for getting to the Pro Bowl.

Jamaal Charles - Running Back

Let's face it, the Chiefs are terrible at the quarterback position (it's one of the places I'd honestly consider if I were Tim Tebow). So the Chiefs absolutely have to rely on their running game.

Jamaal Charles, by anyone's account, is one of the best backs in the league; further, he's faced so many seven- and eight-man fronts, it's almost shocking that his average is 5.4 yards per carry (second only to C.J. Spiller in the AFC).

And now that he's cracked the 750-carry threshold, Charles has far and away the highest per-carry-average in NFL history, with more than half a yard on Jim Brown, the prior record holder.

For a speed guy, he averages 2.3 yards after contact per carry. That ain't too shabby. Charles is certainly Pro Bowl worthy.

Derrick Johnson - Inside Linebacker

Again, here's a player whose Pro Bowl status is a reflection of the Chiefs' dog-vomit offense. Johnson has been nothing less than a tackling machine this year. He has registered 99 tackes and has a league-leading 68 stops.

Clearly, Johnson benefits from playing in a 3-4 defense, where your inside linebacker had better be tough, but the idea that Johnson isn't qualified for the Pro Bowl because of the Chiefs' record is a bit of a stretch.

Tamba Hali - Outside Linebacker

It's not a shock to me that an outside linebacker for the Chiefs made the Pro Bowl (similarly to Derrick Johnson, in the 3-4, all linebackers are going to get plenty of opportunities for tackles), it's that the wrong Chiefs outside linebacker was chosen. Justin Houston has been to the Chiefs what Wesley Woodyard has to the Broncos, although Houston was a third-round pick with a much higher grade (the guy smoked weed before the combine and was downgraded).

According to PFF, Houston is graded only behind Anthony Spencer and Clay Matthews as 3-4 OLBs and a full thirteen spots ahead of Hali. On tape, Houston's coverage skills are second to no other linebacker currently in the league.

Should Hali have made the Pro Bowl? Probably not. Does that mean the Chiefs should't have placed Houston? I don't think so.

Eric Berry - Safety

Here is where the disgust should begin and end. Berry's rookie year, versatility, and reputation got him the nod, and although Berry is one of the most talented safeties in the league, he didn't deserve entry to the Pro Bowl this year.

I could go on and on about how the Chiefs use Berry in every position (free and strong, man-to-man like a corner wide, in the slot, blitzing like a extra linebacker), but there's just two words I need to say: Eric Weddle. Weddle yesterday likened his own omission from the Pro Bowl to a "slap to the face." In the case of Eric Berry, I'd certainly agree.

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...o-the-pro-bowl


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