I'm not really sure why we are even debating this.


With new GM's and HC's come new QB's. Add in the first overall pick and it's pretty much a no brainer at this point.

And now you are supporting the "QB or bust" crowd. If Albert leaves "it's going to be a LT?" Why? Because we don't have one?

Gee, that sounds a lot like the QB situation...and yet, you are criticizing people who want a QB because they feel that neither Quinn nor Cassel nor Stanzi is capable of playing it at an acceptable NFL level.

Why would it be a LT when there are totally solid LT's to be found in this draft in the second round?

See how it works?

Don't be a disengenuos hypocrite.

Neither are we, ****stick. When did we say, "I hope we don't draft a defensive player at all this year"?

We can get those guys in Rounds 2-7. There are TONS of good ILBs, CBs, and safeties throughout. Lots of guys who could start for us.

The problem is it's so goddamn rare to find QBs from those rounds who can not only start but be elite players. So that's why we should take the best one in the 1st round.

Shane Skov just raped my Wisconsin Badgers. He's a guy who will probably be available to us with our top pick in the 3rd round. HOLY SHIT WE JUST FIXED OUR ILB AND IT DIDN'T COST US THE #1 OVERALL PICK

Isn't the NFL draft wonderful? You can like... draft MORE THAN ONE PLAYER. *gasp* How incredible!

Yeah he did. That guy is a stud. And if he declares, he might be there at the top of the third. (Like I have in my mock in the Draft Planet.)

Much more versatile than Te'o as he can play inside and outside. Three down player that you aren't going to lose anything with in terms of run or pass defense.

Really like Skov a lot.

Extorter...

I'll make a bet with you.

Next 5 years...5 #1 picks...5 QBs

Want to play?

I know what the joke is/was, I honest to god didn't take it the same. As for the Dilfers of the world, yes the NFL has changed, but not nearly that much. There's a reason that guys like Dilfer and Johnson got super bowl rings, and it certainly wasn't their consistency at the QB position. They were nothing but game managers on a team running on all cylinders. You can make the case that throughout the history of the NFL, there's never really been a team that "dominated" and won championships that didn't have an above average QB at the helm. Every once in a while you'll get a guy to the big show and maybe even play the best game of his life and win won, but you don't get to be a perennial playoff team without a top 10 QB, it just doesn't happen.

These are not facts that I've ignored, and you'd be an ignorant tool to even remotely think that is why I am implying here. I'm simply stating that there isn't a good enough QB in this upcoming draft, pre-combine, pre-pro day to justify the #1 pick in the draft. Not that I've seen at least. And on top of that, there is so much "servicable starter" talent in this group of QB's, that we'll have ZERO issues picking a guy up in the 2nd round if that is our path, should we take it.

So then the question becomes, How much better is Geno Smith than Wilson or Bray at the NFL level? Because if we're talking marginal difference, why the **** would you waste the #1 pick in the draft on a talent you CAN AND WILL GET in the second round? I'd rather "waste" that #1 pick on a surefire starter at whatever position I need the most, versus the value I'll get in the 2nd for QB. Allllllllllll ****ing day.

As stated above, honest to god didn't take it as a joke lol

Are you kidding me? Can you read? It doesn't say don't take a QB, it just says I'm not opposed to taking a guy like Te'o in the first and getting a QB in the 2nd. SHOCK, I still take a QB.

EXACTLY what I'm getting at here.

Funny thing is, I wasn't arguing that ILB's could win games, someone was just dumb enough to say they haven't, and I argued against that. I'm not making an argument that says ILB wins games anything comparable to a QB, simply pointing out that DJ has won quite a few games for us over the years.

Take nothing more from it than that. Read less into what I write, and take what I write as a literal sense, I'm not concealing motives or hiding an inner purpose. All I'm saying here is that if there isn't a clear cut talent for that #1 pick, we draft whoever is the star of the show at a position we need IF AND ONLY IF THEY BLOW IT AWAY in scouting, and then go get a guy in the 2nd where we'll have 5-6 options at serviceable starters in this draft.

That's possible, from what I've watched, he's a pretty damned good tackler and damned near top of the crop in pass defense. He seems like he'd be absolutely solid in our 3-4 and could play from a number of different packages. Of course, all of that depends on what our new coach brings in and what he decides we will run. We have the personnel for the 3-4 all day long, but if for some reason we bring in a guy who wants to run the 4-3, drafting Te'O is a complete waste for us. Feel free to quote that and use it against me later.

See the previous comment about this, I didn't bring that point up, just argued it so the person who brought it up, realized they were wrong.

**** this all over the place, we do not need to draft anymore god damned linemen, especially if they end up being SEC linemen. You'd think we'd have learned our lesson by now.

THIS IS WHAT I AM SAYING, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

Not even remotely, clearly you're having issues figuring that thought process out lol.

If it were a no brainer at this point, why is it that half the mocks out there don't have us taking a QB? It also isn't always the case that you get a new QB, it just happens to be heavily prominent in the rebuilding process when you pickup a team in the dumps. I will never argue against the fact that we need a QB here in KC, I just don't think we have to look at this as #1 pick or bust. We can just as easily get a starter in the 2nd round. This isn't nearly as pressure filled and stressful as you guys want to make it out to be. We've got such a GREAT position in this draft to add so much talent to this team in positions we are lacking, we just need to be smart with how we draft that talent. As of right now, taking a QB first, might not be the right way to go, but we will get a QB regardless.

I NEVER said we shouldn't get a QB dude, not ****ing once, and never did I say our QB situation was good or that we didn't need to pickup a QB. All I'm saying is we don't necessarily have to spend our first pick on a QB since there is no clear cut "guy" in the QB prospects, and as it sits right now, we can just about get the same talent from a QB in the second round, as we 'd get in the first. You need an exercise in comprehension because you are failing dangerously at this one. Also, we have no clue how Stanzi will play at the NFL level, our brain trust has decided we shouldn't evaluate him in an NFL game because we know better. If you are taken in the 5th round or later, you can't be a good QB, right? lols

As for the LT, if there is a clear cut LT that separates himself from the rest, **** yeah you draft that guy, especially with the #1 pick. More important than a good QB, is his Left Tackle, do you want to waste the investment of your #1 QB without a tackle to protect him? Its all about the available talent. CAN you get a comparable talent in the 2nd round with an LT as the first round? As of right now, **** no, not even CLOSE. QB? Yes.

I'm going to guess that the Disingenuous Hypocrite typo was a joke in the lexicon too? Haven't been through it to figure that out.


Whoa bitch, don't get mad. The fatal flaw in your gameplan there, you know, with drafting players and stuff, is the fact that there isn't a certified Elite QB in this draft. So under the same mindset, you can get that same play from rounds 2 and 3, and not have to waste a first round pick on 2nd round talent.

Are we that desperate? I mean, I know we have Cassel and Quinn on the roster for now, but do we really have to waste a #1 pick on a QB if the talent is equal to that of a guy we can get in the 2nd round?

Justify that to me and I'll jump on the Geno or bust bandwagon, as of right now I see no justification, at least not until after the combine. If someone blows me out of the water, **** yeah I'm all over spending that #1 pick on them.

If you're including this coming draft in those next 5 years, that's a little risky. What are we betting?

I'm too much of a gambler to not hear you out on this :D

Te'o might turn out to be another Tony Mandarich. Too risky.

This Exoter guy seems pretty cool huh

Lets go draft a punter, because apparently I'm on board for drafting a punter with the #1 pick, call me Taco of Tacocorp and load me up with Kickers.

**** yeah!

I've never seen so many people quoted in one post.

Which mod is sitting back posting and laughing at everyone?

If its a mod they are wasting a lot of effort on this.

Hate me all you want guys but I'm really scared we're going to reach for a QB who wouldn't be a first round pick in any of the past 5 years. I really want a franchise QB I'm just getting scared of how large a risk it will be with our pick.

I will offer a sig-bet. I bet there are at least four QBs taken in the first round. Who wants to take me on?