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DaneMcCloud 02-19-2013 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9415664)
but he did take Bledsoe over Roaf.
More importantly, he chose Bledsoe over Mirer.

Hammock Parties 02-19-2013 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9415664)
but he did take Bledsoe over Roaf.
Drew Bledsoe was one of the greatest QB prospects ever. No one was gonna pass on him.

jAZ 02-19-2013 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9415657)
We don't play games anymore.

We got the last asshole fired.

We're a ****ing force to be reckoned with now.
We'll surely be f'ed by your lust for power.

Deberg_1990 02-19-2013 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9415675)
Drew Bledsoe was one of the greatest QB prospects ever. No one was gonna pass on him.
Yes this.


Actually the whole Long over Ryan thing proves the point of this:

Its better to take a B QB over an A lineman.

Hammock Parties 02-19-2013 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 9415689)
We'll surely be f'ed by your lust for power.
Paul Revere didn't want to be President.

cosmo20002 02-19-2013 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9414891)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl.../?sct=uk_wr_a1

[B]The quarterbacks are a total mish-mosh at this point. One GM interested in acquiring a quarterback this offseason told me over the weekend, "I expect more attention on the quarterbacks throwing this year than on any other single thing at the Combine.'' Some think Geno Smith of West Virginia will go first overall to quarterback-needy Kansas City; one personnel man who studied all the top quarterbacks for a team in need of one last fall told me, "There's not one quarterback, including Smith, I would take in the first round."
What do you bet this personnel man represents a team drafting in middle position who is definitely going to take a QB in the first round?

htismaqe 02-19-2013 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9415715)
What do you bet this personnel man represents a team drafting in middle position who is definitely going to take a QB in the first round?
Exactly.

HemiEd 02-19-2013 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9415239)
Alex Smith isn't winning shit.
Oh yeah? He could very well be the guy to get this team back to 10-6 and perpetual first round playoff losses!

Can you just imagine what it would be like to have a QB with the talent of Geno?

Most Chiefs fans are resigned to the fact that we don't deserve it, and must keep wearing the hand me down clothes.

HemiEd 02-19-2013 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9415308)
Shenanigans.

Alex Smith was a fumbling kick returner away from a SB in 2011. When he went down in 2012 he was leading the NFL in passer efficiency and got benched for a guy that was just a hell of a lot more dynamic than Alex. Y'know what? Kaepernick's a hell of a lot more dynamic than Geno is as well.

Give Smith a good team and he can get you to 12 wins. And yes, it's absolutely possible that he could get hot like Flacco and take a team to the SB - he should have in 2011.

I'm getting really tired of people that feel that have to slam Alex Smith to justify Geno Smith. All that does is diminish Geno. Alex Smith would be as good as Trent Green was in KC under Andy Reid, I honestly believe that. Geno has the upside to be the top 10 guy that Alex doesn't, but that doesn't mean Alex is crap.
Please refresh my memory, what did Trent Green win again?

DaneMcCloud 02-19-2013 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9415772)
Please refresh my memory, what did Trent Green win again?
With all due respect, I don't think there are very many QB's, living or dead, that could have won a playoff game with the Chiefs defense from 2001-2005.

DaneMcCloud 02-19-2013 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9415308)
Shenanigans.

Alex Smith was a fumbling kick returner away from a SB in 2011. When he went down in 2012 he was leading the NFL in passer efficiency and got benched for a guy that was just a hell of a lot more dynamic than Alex. Y'know what? Kaepernick's a hell of a lot more dynamic than Geno is as well.

Give Smith a good team and he can get you to 12 wins. And yes, it's absolutely possible that he could get hot like Flacco and take a team to the SB - he should have in 2011.

I'm getting really tired of people that feel that have to slam Alex Smith to justify Geno Smith. All that does is diminish Geno. Alex Smith would be as good as Trent Green was in KC under Andy Reid, I honestly believe that. Geno has the upside to be the top 10 guy that Alex doesn't, but that doesn't mean Alex is crap.
I agree 100%.

Unlike so many people, at this point in time, I'm advocate of the best possible QB option for the 2013 Chiefs season.

If that's Foles, or Alex Smith or Matt Flynn, Eugene Smith or Zac Dysert, whatever, I'm good with it.

Those people that state that Eugene Smith the ONLY answer are myopic fools.

Bump 02-19-2013 01:58 PM
**** that

HemiEd 02-19-2013 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9415796)
With all due respect, I don't think there are very many QB's, living or dead, that could have won a playoff game with the Chiefs defense from 2001-2005.
Trent is like a fine wine. He is getting better with age. He was a great guy and there is no denying that, but he wasn't all that special of a QB. The running game behind that OL was the real strength.

I think back to the playoff game with Indy, where there were no punts. Obviously, the Indy Defense was not much better than the Chiefs, as an offensive pass interference call on Tony was the difference.

DJ's left nut 02-19-2013 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9415661)
Regarding Alex Smith, I see him as a Rich Gannon type. He flounders around for several years without success, then finally "gets it". About the time he "gets it", he's taken on by a young, motivated, innovative offensive mind that has an offense tailored exactly to his skills. He thrives in it. I don't want Alex Smith. I don't think hes the abortion of a qb that some here do. I think he could come here and have us winning 10 or 11 games with Andy Reid, and heck, maybe a playoff game or two. That isn't what I want though.

I want the upside of Geno Smith. I wanna see his spectacular accuracy deployed in Andy Reids west coast offense, where he should thrive. I want a higher ceiling than I feel we'd get with Alex Smith.

If it doesn't pan out? Well, at least they tried. Then you try again.
I agree with everything you've said there. I'd rather have Geno as well.

But Alex is a nice player in his own right.

As to the Geno vs. Tannehill comps - Tannehill has more upside than Geno. Tannehill could be really really good. I still think he'd have been right up there with RGIII had he been a QB for his entire college career.

He has literally every tool you could ask for in a QB, he's taken well to coaching and he's shown consistent improvement every step of the way.

If Tannehill were in the draft, I might actually take him over Geno. Tannehill's upside is immense.

DJ's left nut 02-19-2013 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9415772)
Please refresh my memory, what did Trent Green win again?
Oh for ****s sake - that's the best you have?

You're right, it was Trent Green's fault we didn't win anything. It had nothing to do with the career day defense.

When people make shitty arguments, they detract from the good ones. Yours is one of the former.


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