Why?

This conversation was about Andy Reid. And you were wrong.

You enjoy taking a beating?

If you read that report, it's kind of a mirage.


He didn’t throw deep very often. Between the 11-20 and 20+ yard zones, Manuel only threw past 10 yards 26% of the time. This ties Matt Barkley for the lowest in the last two classes.
Most of that was a factor of him not going to the 11-20 zone often. He was actually close to average in how often he threw 20+ yards, but threw in the intermediate zone 10% of the time less than the AvgQB.
EJ threw within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage 52% of the time. Again this ties Matt Barkley for the highest within these zones in the last two classes. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but we have to check out his accuracy to ensure those aren’t the only locations he can throw.



This is where it gets interesting. Manuel completed 73.33% of his passes in the 11-20 yard range. This would be the second highest in the last two classes behind RGIII. However, as we saw above, he hardly ever threw there. Does this make it a fluke or was Jimbo Fisher’s offense keeping him from reaching his full potential?
However, when he had to throw past 20 yards, his completion percentage fell. This is what makes me think the 11-20 yard completion percentage is a bit of an anomaly. You aren’t able to throw intermediate passes extremely well and then suddenly become below-average at deeper balls. It just doesn’t make a lot of sense.
His shorter zone accuracy was quite good. He was hitting average to above average in the 1-10 yard routes, which isn’t anything to complain about. His 6-10 yard completion accuracy is the highest in the last two classes, besting Andrew Luck for the highest. If he can capitalize on that in the NFL, I guarantee an OC can find work for him.

If you watched the games (and read that report) you'd know that he almost NEVER threw into the 6-20 zone.

Completing 25 out of 50 passes, despite only being 50%, is FAR more impactful than completing 7 out of 10 passes.

The guy struggled to move the chains.

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Via @tjcarpenterwhb Chiefs have meetings set w/Tyler Bray and EJ Manuel. No definitive word on plans w/Smith, Barkely, Nassib Glennon etc.

Yeah, they were just talking about it on the radio.

Interviews scheduled with Manuel and Bray.

Nothing yet with Smith, Barkley, Wilson, Nassib, or Glennon.

Ha! I could care less. Rather, I enjoyed the debate and learned something from it re: Reid's QBs in Philly.

Props to OnTheWarpath58 for providing that info, and being able to do so in a modest fashion.

Thanks for the back and forth, htismaqe.

I'm not gonna act like I'm a FSU homer or anything. I've seen a few games of him, but not too many.

The basic thing I have heard from FSU fans is that the guy has all the potential in the world, but it just never came to the surface, and that's what frustrated everybody.

Sounds like they controlled him though if he is just throwing balls 5 yards down the field.

They are talking about the Chiefs! They are not getting ignored like the Jags. Gold stars for the house.

Manuel is a guy that will probably get pushed up boards, but if we do draft a guy early, he's a guy I wouldn't mind at all taking in the third as a developmental/backup type guy.

Sorry, I didn't feel it worth my time to go digging up stats. I was confident enough in my opinion without that.

Next time, I will though.

Don't forget he ran the ball 200 times in 2 seasons, too.

Does Manuel have a strong arm....?

If you think Kevin Kolb had the potential for an elite QB, I don't know what to tell you. That's even more stupid.

You can't mold a gold statue from a pile of shit.

Manual sounds like this years Tannehill.

Underachiever in college, fanbase hates him.....but NFL scouts love him.

Actually, that was precisely my point.