The Chiefs have been plugging guys in as replacements for Will Shields and Brian Waters for a few years now and it's not clear to me that they've found anyone that would be as good as Albert is likely to be. I could be wrong about that, and if the Chiefs think they've got a better alternative at G for less than Albert would be making then they shouldn't sign/draft Albert/Joeckel. I think your theory has merit but I think in practice these low cost, high performance people don't just show up on your doorstep.

Leonard Davis

If you throw a crap load of money at your LT and LG you will need those types to show up at your doorstep for other positions.

I'm not against getting a better player elsewhere. I want you to read my first post in this thread again:

That was in response to the argument that Kevin Keitzman has been making (and that BossChief made in this thread) that to draft Joeckel it means you have to be willing to trade Brandon Albert and the 1st pick overall for him. It doesn't and I explained why. That doesn't mean that the alternative I described is the absolute best course of action and it doesn't mean that I want it to happen. But some of the arguments against it are less than compelling.

You wouldn't be throwing a crap load of money at your LT and LG. You'd only be paying one player big LT money. The other guy would be getting good rookie money, but it's not big money in the overall scheme.

He was drafted to be a LT and failed at it

Well I don't think it would be worth using that top pick to improve those two spots when the outcome would be somewhat negligible.


Actually of the opinion that our best lg is Hudson who was actually better in college at g than Albert ever was. So in reality we should probably be lookig for a center.

While we do have cap space, you can't look just short term because we have it we have to spend it. I don't think a lg should eat up that much space so that other, more important positions can't be spent on in free agency etc.


So yes while joeckel and Albert might improve that side, it seems to me it would be a waste of money and a valuable pick when we already have an adequate lt and lg on the roster

Yeah, I know. He was paid LT top dollar and played guard.

Yeah I get that.


I'm just not sure the impact of a top 10 lt vs a top 5 lt is a huge difference so I say don't mess with it.

Actually iirc didnt Davis start at lg then go to lt?

Biggest problem we are overlooking is that I don't think Albert would ever sign on knowing he might play guard

I don't have a problem with your conclusion, but I have three problems with the other things you said.

1. Drafting Joeckel and keeping Albert wouldn't be a short term move though. It would be a long term move because the centerpiece would be that you're theoretically improving LT while getting 5 years younger.

2. Whether he plays G or T, Branden Albert will be eating up the same amount of cap space and preventing the signing of the same free agents.

3. I'm also not sure why you say so emphatically that Rodney Hudson was a better guard in college than Branden Albert.

He was drafted to play LT but ended up playing G for his first several seasons because his coaches weren't impressed enough with him.

That's already been mentioned. Albert will either be signed or tagged before the draft in all likelihood.

Because he was?