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milkman 02-28-2013 08:52 PM

This team is going to flounder between 6 and 1o wins for the next 7 seasons, and we'll hear the same crap we heard from Carl.

Just have to get into the tournament.
Anything can happen.

In the Chiefs case with Alex Smith, anything is getting bounced out in the first game.

RippedmyFlesh 02-28-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9452714)
I don't believe thatv for a second.

These guys saw 6 pro bowlers on the roster, and decided to go the safe route, rather than develop a QB.

It's the same bullshit we've seen for 30 years.

Exactly.
History shows you pick the best 1 or 2 qb's of just about any class and you have a good starting qb. This year it's just more difficult to identify the right one. Even in lean years there's someone. This there isn't ANY qb's this year is BS. Like you said it's the safe route which is stupid because we will have to do a Washington type deal to get our guy in the future.
To not pull the trigger now is chicken shit and foolish.

Meatloaf 02-28-2013 10:04 PM

Try the 2010 draft class. Bradford, who was highly rated by most everyone and NO ONE ELSE. This year's class has no one highly rated.....unless you feel Geno is as highly rated as Bradford was (not). Very bad year to spend 1.1 on a QB. It sucks, but that's just how Chiefs cookies crumble.

DaneMcCloud 02-28-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9452527)
Should we then defer to their judgment? Like we did Scott *****?

John Dorsey was a part of a Green Bay front office that traded for Favre when they had the "Majik Man, drafted Aaron Brooks, Mark Brunnel, Hasselbeck, Aaron Rodgers and others I'm certainly forgetting.

Reid drafted McNabb, Feeley, Kolb and others while acquiring guys like Vick and Garcia, all of whom won games for the Eagles.

Comparing those two men to ***** is like comparing Isaiah Thomas to Jerry West.

RippedmyFlesh 02-28-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 9453049)
Try the 2010 draft class. Bradford, who was highly rated by most everyone and NO ONE ELSE. This year's class has no one highly rated.....unless you feel Geno is as highly rated as Bradford was (not). Very bad year to spend 1.1 on a QB. It sucks, but that's just how Chiefs cookies crumble.

I knew someone would say this so here

98 Peyton Manning
99 Donovan McNabb
00 Tom Brady
01 Drew Brees
02 David Garrard
03 Carson Palmer
04 Eli Ben Rivers
05 Aaron Rodgers
06 Jay Cutler
07 Kevin Kolb
08 Joe Flacco Matt Ryan
09 Matthew Stafford
10 Sam Bradford
11 Colin Kaepernick
12 Andrew Luck

Out of the last 15 years 1 bad (Kolb) 2 average and 12 qbs you can win a super bowl with.You have who may be one of the 5 most qualified people in the league picking that qb and you don't do it. No one NO one KNOWS that any of the qb's available is NOT a franchise qb. Time will tell not any person.
Now go goozle antifreeze you mouth breathing troll.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 10:17 PM

So Pioli's executive of the year awards were all bullshit. Got it.

milkman 02-28-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9453065)
John Dorsey was a part of a Green Bay front office that traded for Favre when they had the "Majik Man, drafted Aaron Brooks, Mark Brunnel, Hasselbeck, Aaron Rodgers and others I'm certainly forgetting.

Reid drafted McNabb, Feeley, Kolb and others while acquiring guys like Vick and Garcia, all of whom won games for the Eagles.

Comparing those two men to ***** is like comparing Isaiah Thomas to Jerry West.

Ted Thompson was the decision maker in Green Bay.
Dorsey is as proven right now as Pioli was when he was hired.

And the only QB that wasn't garbage in a nice package fir Reid wasz. McNabb.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 10:18 PM

I keep going back to Reid giving Vick $100 million.

Dumb as shit.

mr. tegu 02-28-2013 10:18 PM

I have no doubt they can scheme and make Smith into an efficient passer. But I am so sick of Charles having to face nine in the box at all times because teams don't fear a deep ball.

Why can't we just have a QB that can stretch the field? Maybe someone who throws guys open? A QB that knows his receiver is open before the receiver does? A QB that can say eff you to a great defensive scheme and beat it with his arm without solely relying on the offensive scheme? Is that so much to ask?

Hootie 02-28-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9453106)
I keep going back to Reid giving Vick $100 million.

Dumb as shit.

that contract was A BLOATED contract...Vick got nowhere NEAR $100M...it was $100M if Vick played the way he played during that one 10 game stretch...

He probably made like $30M total, IF that. This is a terrible point.

dirk digler 02-28-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9451497)
At the very best he'll post numbers similar to Cassel's 2010 season. I doubt we ever win more than 10 or 11 games with him, and I doubt we ever win any playoff game past the wild card round (and I'd be surprised if we didn't get curbed-stomped there, too).

Now that I know the parameters I voted divisional loss with wild card win. Although I'd almost rather vote wild card loss.

And I should make the caveat that I don't think the team will actually do that, that's just the best possible outcome I ever see. I think never breaking .500 is about as likely.

Yep. I haven't decided yet on WC loss or over 500 with no playoff appearances.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9453109)
that contract was A BLOATED contract...Vick got nowhere NEAR $100M...it was $100M if Vick played the way he played during that one 10 game stretch...

He probably made like $30M total, IF that. This is a terrible point.

He got $40 million guaranteed.

It was dumb as hell.

Hootie 02-28-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9453111)
He got $40 million guaranteed.

It was dumb as hell.

please link me to where he got this money

that contract has already been SHREDDED...

Link me to the breakdown in the money he received when he signed that deal

DaneMcCloud 02-28-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9453105)
Ted Thompson was the decision maker in Green Bay.
Dorsey is as proven right now as ***** was when he was hired.

And the only QB that wasn't garbage in a nice package fir Reid wasz. McNabb.

Dorsey was Director of College Scouting after his stint as a regional scout and NFL player. His career wasn't made from Green Bay hitting on one single late round pick.

Green Bay has hit on tons of college players over the past 20+ years so to categorize him as being the same as ***** is not only incorrect, it's unfair.

Also, Ted Thompson wasn't the Green Bay GM until 2005.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9453116)
please link me to where he got this money

that contract has already been SHREDDED...

Link me to the breakdown in the money he received when he signed that deal

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/69...-year-contract

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A league source told ESPN's Andrew Brandt the deal is worth $100 million and a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that it contains roughly $40 million guaranteed.


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