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oldandslow 03-14-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9497622)
Exactly.

I don't see any way they don't trade down at this point. With Hudson's injury and Allen's suspect play last year, not to mention Lilja's retirement, the Chiefs clearly need to take some linemen, no question. And while I think it's pretty apparent that O-Line is probably where they're going with their first, I can't imagine they aren't going to take a 'bad' trade down which would allow them to get yet another potential interior lineman in the 2nd.

They have to be maxed on the cap and they still have 3 clear holes (ILB, RT and either C/G...maybe both). They need the ammo in the trade down to fill those holes in the draft.

They can't just take Joeckel and call it a day; they're going to need another immediate contributor and I think they'd be fine moving down, taking Lane Johnson and then adding that 2nd round pick as an absolute worst case scenario.

Yep. They will trade down imo and take the tackle that is left.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9497626)
I don't either. His 2012 PFF rating was garbage, but that doesn't necessarily tell the whole story.

CoMo will tell the whole story.

Does anyone know if CoMo likes this guy? Who gives a shit about PFF, is CoMo hates him, we're solid gold.

ToxSocks 03-14-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9497626)
I don't either. His 2012 PFF rating was garbage, but that doesn't necessarily tell the whole story.

The only thing i remember about him is that he was the guy putting clown shoes on Chad Johnson in "Hard Knocks". He was talking trash about Chad and owning him on the practice field.

-King- 03-14-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9497595)
If I could just talk myself into believing A. Smith could be a top 12 QB, this offseason would give me a lot of hope. I'm not even in the anti-Alex crowd, I just think they gave up too damn much for him.

THIS! If I had ANY confidence in Alex Smith, I'd think we would be a contender in 2013. But...

penbrook 03-14-2013 12:12 PM

I wonder how pissed off Arenas is.

gblowfish 03-14-2013 12:12 PM

This is good. Very good. Keep bringing in talented guys to compete for jobs.

saphojunkie 03-14-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9497622)
Exactly.

I don't see any way they don't trade down at this point. With Hudson's injury and Allen's suspect play last year, not to mention Lilja's retirement, the Chiefs clearly need to take some linemen, no question. And while I think it's pretty apparent that O-Line is probably where they're going with their first, I can't imagine they aren't going to take a 'bad' trade down which would allow them to get yet another potential interior lineman in the 2nd.

They have to be maxed on the cap and they still have 3 clear holes (ILB, RT and either C/G...maybe both). They need the ammo in the trade down to fill those holes in the draft.

They can't just take Joeckel and call it a day; they're going to need another immediate contributor and I think they'd be fine moving down, taking Lane Johnson and then adding that 2nd round pick as an absolute worst case scenario.

This is what is going to happen. Though I think Fisher is way up there on the list, too.

Second round pick would be near the top and we could be looking at Warford, Ertz, Woods, Hunter, or a QB to develop.

In58men 03-14-2013 12:13 PM

@PCBearcat: That first summer, Pioli signed Copper, Engram, Wade and Toomer in an attempt to fix WR spot. #Chiefs



ROFL

saphojunkie 03-14-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9497636)
I wonder how pissed off Arenas is.

**** him.

Direckshun 03-14-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9497621)
Brandon Flowers ‏@BFlowers24

Today Was a Good Day ��

LMAO

The Bad Guy 03-14-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9497604)
Would they really want to mess with putting Flowers in the slot? That's a pretty radical re-alignment.

I don't think Welker's any better than Decker. Robinson can hang with him in the slot just fine.

Flowers was in the slot a lot I believe prior to Arenas.

Arenas did a nice job on Welker in the past too.

Having Arenas as a dime back is a great, great thing.

BigCatDaddy 03-14-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9497629)
CoMo will tell the whole story.

Does anyone know if CoMo likes this guy? Who gives a shit about PFF, is CoMo hates him, we're solid gold.

It's funny because it's actually true.

Just Passin' By 03-14-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9497534)
He's right; pretty outstanding counter-punch.

Flowers can deal with Decker, who's a technician as a route-runner but isn't physically overpowering. Smith would be a nice counter to Thomas in that he's one of the few guys in the league with the size to match up with him who also has the athleticism to hang with him. Robinson is a great matchup for Welker in that he's physical enough to knock him off routes and spend the day beating him up if necessary (Abdullah then plays FS).

I hadn't looked at it in terms of pure matchups, but the Chiefs secondary actually would match up pretty well vs. the Broncos WRs.

I don't see that. Robinson can't cover Welker. Smith is too soft to stop Thomas. When it comes to facing Denver, it's going to have to be the pass rush that wins the day for the Chiefs.

The Bad Guy 03-14-2013 12:17 PM

Actually they aren't maxed yet. They really do want a long term deal with Albert and will likely cut someone like Studebaker.

gblowfish 03-14-2013 12:18 PM

All we have to do to Manning is bounce him on his head a time or two. And if we don't do it, the Raiders will this year for sure.


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