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suds79 03-15-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9501338)
So....

He's not needed to be the immediate savior of this team. Draft him and sit him for a year.

I'd be dancing for joy. Believe me. I just don't think it's realistic compared to how we've seen NFL teams operate with #1 overall picks.

Mother****erJones 03-15-2013 08:41 AM

We could trade back and still get Barkely if they like him over Geno

ChiefGator 03-15-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9501311)
The Redskins also had Rex Grossman (9yr vet at the time) on the roster, probably one of the better backups in the league.


Definitely one of the better backup to the backup QB's in the league.

The Franchise 03-15-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9501342)
I'd be dancing for joy. Believe me. I just don't think it's realistic compared to how we've seen NFL teams operate with #1 overall picks.

Did any of us really think that Dorsey and Reid were going to fill this many holes in FA?

jimw51 03-15-2013 08:46 AM

No

DJ's left nut 03-15-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9501330)
Yes. However, to me the value is equal to drafting OT @ #1. We have Albert at LT. We have a guy who can potentially play RT (Stephenson/Allen). You can also sign a RT in FA or draft one outside of rd 1.

If you're looking at immediate value the pick, IMO, has to be DL. Like it or not.

You're preaching to the choir there.

If they trade back, they have to take Floyd, Richardson or Mingo, IMO. I know some folks like Ansah as well.

There's little question in my mind that D-Line is where we should go with the pick and where there's the greatest potential impact on the team. They're a great D-Lineman away from being a truly dangerous defense.

Dante84 03-15-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9501330)
Yes. However, to me the value is equal to drafting OT @ #1. We have Albert at LT. We have a guy who can potentially play RT (Stephenson/Allen). You can also sign a RT in FA or draft one outside of rd 1.

If you're looking at immediate value the pick, IMO, has to be DL. Like it or not.

...a position that usually takes 3 years for the player to develop.

patteeu 03-15-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9501171)
I don't see that as a problem. It's about cap allocation. Even with Geno drawing a 4.5m salary we'd be well below several teams total QB cap hit for 2013.

Also, I'd have to look - does Andy Reid typically keep only 2 QBs active? I never understood the Chiefs stupidity of keeping only 2 QBs active each week.

Unless the rules have changed in the past year or two, keeping only 2 QBs active effectively gives you an extra active roster spot because the 3rd QB can still be an emergency QB (once he goes in the game the first 2 QBs can't return though, iirc).

KC_Lee 03-15-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9501381)
...a position that usually takes 3 years for the player to develop.

And KC has a history of picking busts and bums with DL 1st round picks.

DaKCMan AP 03-15-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9501381)
...a position that usually takes 3 years for the player to develop.

Not sure I agree. There are guys at every position who come in and make an impact immediately and there are guys at every position who require time to develop.

DaKCMan AP 03-15-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9501385)
Unless the rules have changed in the past year or two, keeping only 2 QBs active effectively gives you an extra active roster spot because the 3rd QB can still be an emergency QB (once he goes in the game the first 2 QBs can't return though, iirc).

Right - it just seems risky to me when there are so many QB injuries every week. Even moreso when you consider our stable of QBs (Cassel, Quinn) were especially frail. Alex Smith isn't an ironman, either.

RunKC 03-15-2013 08:56 AM

I can't believe people think we are going to draft a QB still. So basically we're gonna draft a QB 1st overall to be the 3rd string QB this year? ROFL

patteeu 03-15-2013 08:58 AM

I think it's a long shot that they'd take Geno Smith, but I don't really see the contracts of ASmith and CDaniel as significant obstacles. The biggest obstacle (besides the possibility that they just don't believe in GS) is that it would instantly create a QB controversy. Maybe Andy Reid can manage that, but it would be a challenge.

patteeu 03-15-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9501386)
And KC has a history of picking busts and bums with DL 1st round picks.

This version of KC (Reid/Dorsey) doesn't really have a history, at least not together.

DaKCMan AP 03-15-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9501401)
I think it's a long shot that they'd take Geno Smith, but I don't really see the contracts of ASmith and CDaniel as significant obstacles. The biggest obstacle (besides the possibility that they just don't believe in GS) is that it would instantly create a QB controversy. Maybe Andy Reid can manage that, but it would be a challenge.

I agree, except that it'd only be a controversy if 1) Reid & co. allow it and 2) if Smith plays like trash. If Reid & co. name Smith the starter from day 1 then there's no controversy until #2 happens.


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