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The Franchise 03-18-2013 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9511195)
Not necessarily.

For whatever reason, the Chiefs front offices have wanted to ship out Albert of possible. Haley rode his ass, made him lose weight and effectively changed his game, which was leverage and strength. I have no idea how Reid plans to scheme his offensive line but clearly, they'll move on if possible.

And to say that a rookie LT would be a downgrade is complete speculation. We've seen plenty of first round tackle start day one and be effective, if not play at a Pro Bowl level out of the gate.
It's complete ****ing speculation to sit there and tell me that Joeckel will be better than Albert or play at a Pro Bowl level.

The Franchise 03-18-2013 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9511201)
Nope, not at all.

"Value" is overrated.

Would you rather pay $8.5 million for Albert or $4.9 million for his replacement AND have a high second round pick?

It's as much about the cap as it is the player.
I'd rather pay $8.5 million to Albert, not trade for a QB who takes sacks instead of turnovers and let Chase Daniel start. We'd still have our 2nd round pick in that scenario.

Sorter 03-18-2013 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9511201)
Nope, not at all.

"Value" is overrated.

Would you rather pay $8.5 million for Albert or $4.9 million for his replacement AND have a high second round pick?

It's as much about the cap as it is the player.
Personally, I'd rather have given up 3.1 for Alex, drafted Geno or Barkley, and kept Albert.

Coogs 03-18-2013 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9511179)
Why is that?

There is talk around us taking a pass rusher. Dumervil fits that bill if we free up money.

Fish 03-18-2013 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9511195)
Not necessarily.

For whatever reason, the Chiefs front offices have wanted to ship out Albert of possible. Haley rode his ass, made him lose weight and effectively changed his game, which was leverage and strength. I have no idea how Reid plans to scheme his offensive line but clearly, they'll move on if possible.

And to say that a rookie LT would be a downgrade is complete speculation. We've seen plenty of first round tackle start day one and be effective, if not play at a Pro Bowl level out of the gate.
Haley rode his ass. But Haley rode everyone's ass. What other indications would give you the idea that the Chiefs ever wanted to ship Albert out? That doesn't make much sense, considering they traded up for him, and haven't ever spoken ill of him.

And your second paragraph is humorous, considering how much you've already speculated that taking a rookie QB this year would be a downgrade...

DaneMcCloud 03-18-2013 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9511206)
It's complete ****ing speculation to sit there and tell me that Joeckel will be better than Albert or play at a Pro Bowl level.
I didn't name names.

I said that its not outside the realm of possibility for a left tackle to start day one and play well.

DaneMcCloud 03-18-2013 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9511213)
Personally, I'd rather have given up 3.1 for Alex, drafted Geno or Barkley, and kept Albert.
Sure, but that's not what happened.

DaneMcCloud 03-18-2013 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9511210)
I'd rather pay $8.5 million to Albert, not trade for a QB who takes sacks instead of turnovers and let Chase Daniel start. We'd still have our 2nd round pick in that scenario.
Well, that's not what happened, is it?

When are you guys going to stop complaining and deal with the reality of the situation?

Coogs 03-18-2013 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9511213)
Personally, I'd rather have given up 3.1 for Alex, drafted Geno or Barkley, and kept Albert.
Someone posted the other day that the Bills made an offer to the 69ers that forced us to give up our 2nd and more if we wanted Alex Smith. Don't have a like either.

The Franchise 03-18-2013 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9511224)
I didn't name names.

I said that its not outside the realm of possibility for a left tackle to start day one and play well.
Correct. Ours has done it since his rookie year.....and he's doing it well.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-18-2013 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9511232)
Someone posted the other day that the Bills made an offer to the 69ers that forced us to give up our 2nd and more if we wanted Alex Smith. Don't have a like either.
I think this would of made it out to the Main Media and it hasn't.

The Franchise 03-18-2013 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9511231)
Well, that's not what happened, is it?

When are you guys going to stop complaining and deal with the reality of the situation?
The reality of the situation? Ok...how about this.

**** our 2nd rounder....it's gone.
Sign Albert to a long term deal or let him play on the tender.
Trade down or fill another need on this team with the 1st overall pick.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-18-2013 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9511238)
The reality of the situation? Ok...how about this.

**** our 2nd rounder....it's gone.
Sign Albert to a long term deal or let him play on the tender.
Trade down or fill another need on this team with the 1st overall pick.
Did you ever think that maybe Reid and Dorsey don't like Albert?

Coogs 03-18-2013 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9511235)
I think this would of made it out to the Main Media and it hasn't.
Possible. I read it on here IIRC, and the poster usually has pretty reliable stuff. :shrug:

Dante84 03-18-2013 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9511246)
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