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|Zach| 08-16-2013 12:47 AM

The place is closed now which makes this whole thing funny.

LETS FOLLOW THE LINKERY TO THE NEW WAY!

http://i.imgur.com/By8rNTN.png

I bet when this got instituted this place financially was on the ropes so the owner thought he could get some attention to his place (mission accomplished) with this system conveniently showing it off as his idea and also being able to tout it was a great success.

I imagine this system allowed the place to get by longer because they had more money in house to float to give them flexibility to keep things going. The discussion on the pros and cons of tipping is an interesting one but I really have a lot of skepticism in regards to the true motivation of the owner.

Gravedigger 08-16-2013 03:45 AM

Let me fill you in on some delivery driver knowledge.

7.25 an hour while inside the store, 4.25 an hour while on the road. 1.30 out of your $2 + delivery charge goes to the driver per delivery. The driver pays for wear and tear, gas and is held responsible for anything that happens on the road if its their fault or not.

$1 tip or lower = cheap ass get out and get your own pizza.
$2 = Nut tap.
$3 = Average.
$4 = Thank you! You just helped me forget the last shitty customer who didn't tip.
$5 + = You're a great person. Ill be sure to bring you your pizza first next time.

I worked for 10+ years as a driver, AM, AGM and GM. I've seen it all, I've heard it all, and if you tip online $1.00 and the driver has a second delivery that gave him $3 or more, guess who gets their pizza first?

ShortRoundChief 08-16-2013 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9889305)
People in back get a set rate (which they agreed upon because they work there) whether it is busy or not. Guaranteed as long as they are there working their hours.

There is value in guaranteed money. That isn't the case with the driver.

You do realize I spent the last 10 years of my life as a general manager and district manager of a pizza place?

Up until the mandatory minimum wage hike in mo everyone was paid minimum wage in my company. When it went over 7 drivers got paid $1 less plus tips, plus mileage.

ShortRoundChief 08-16-2013 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9889207)
Drivers now make $4-$5/hr and have the 3rd most dangerous job in America with the Bad drivers and crime. Most of them do A LOT more than just drive the pizza to your house. Even back when I drove I made the pizzas, cut them, prepped up the ingredients and delivered them. They also destroy very expensive vehicles coming to your door.

Nobody in this area makes that little. Literally it's one company that pays sub minimum wage and it's the one I came from.

Like I said I just spent the last 10 years running a Dominos as a Gm and DM.

PornChief 08-16-2013 04:22 AM

Australia doesn't have this culture of tipping and I'd love it if one of you guys came down one day just to see for themselves and tell me what it's like. But then even kids working at McDonald's get about 16-17 bucks an hour and most waitresses in cafes would get paid a bit more than that. Some places have a weekend and holiday surcharge (10%-20%) since you got to pay staff time and half or double time (hols and Sundays).
Even pizza delivery is protected by law, gotta earn at least the minimum wage after expenses. Think that's about $15.75.

|Zach| 08-16-2013 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9889360)
You do realize I spent the last 10 years of my life as a general manager and district manager of a pizza place?

Up until the mandatory minimum wage hike in mo everyone was paid minimum wage in my company. When it went over 7 drivers got paid $1 less plus tips, plus mileage.

That doesn't change the reality of what I said.

I am not saying I know more about running a pizza place than you just more so touching on kitchen vs drivers thing. I don't think the non drivers have any room to bitch.

007 08-16-2013 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 9889359)
Let me fill you in on some delivery driver knowledge.

7.25 an hour while inside the store, 4.25 an hour while on the road. 1.30 out of your $2 + delivery charge goes to the driver per delivery. The driver pays for wear and tear, gas and is held responsible for anything that happens on the road if its their fault or not.

$1 tip or lower = cheap ass get out and get your own pizza.
$2 = Nut tap.
$3 = Average.
$4 = Thank you! You just helped me forget the last shitty customer who didn't tip.
$5 + = You're a great person. Ill be sure to bring you your pizza first next time.


I worked for 10+ years as a driver, AM, AGM and GM. I've seen it all, I've heard it all, and if you tip online $1.00 and the driver has a second delivery that gave him $3 or more, guess who gets their pizza first?

And this is the problem with tipping. Preferential treatment.

I understand being upset with the crappy tippers but a drivers job is to deliver the pizza to a paying customer. The money for the pizza is, after all, going toward their salary as well.

Bugeater 08-16-2013 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 9889359)
Let me fill you in on some delivery driver knowledge.

7.25 an hour while inside the store, 4.25 an hour while on the road. 1.30 out of your $2 + delivery charge goes to the driver per delivery. The driver pays for wear and tear, gas and is held responsible for anything that happens on the road if its their fault or not.

$1 tip or lower = cheap ass get out and get your own pizza.
$2 = Nut tap.
$3 = Average.
$4 = Thank you! You just helped me forget the last shitty customer who didn't tip.
$5 + = You're a great person. Ill be sure to bring you your pizza first next time.

I worked for 10+ years as a driver, AM, AGM and GM. I've seen it all, I've heard it all, and if you tip online $1.00 and the driver has a second delivery that gave him $3 or more, guess who gets their pizza first?

That's ****ing absurd. No way in hell I'm tipping $4-5 on a pizza. Get a different job.

007 08-16-2013 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9889391)
That's ****ing absurd. No way in hell I'm tipping $4-5 on a pizza. Get a different job.

I can see it if you are spending $30 or more on pizza. But for a single pizza, no friggin way. But that is why I drive 2 miles to get my own pizza.

WhiteWhale 08-16-2013 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9889301)
The best tippers (very generally) behind wealthy men are professional women.

Chickens can fly when they're high on acid.

See? I can say random shit and pretend it's true as well.

Bugeater 08-16-2013 06:16 AM

I dated a waitress for 5 years when I was in my 20s, her and the other waitresses always maintained that it was working-class men who tipped the best. But that was 20 years ago...I know Zach has been in the business more recently so maybe things have changed.

Dayze 08-16-2013 07:33 AM

if service is excellent, I usually tip 20% or slightly more; and usually call the manager over to tell them server/waiter/waitress etc is doing an excellent job.

Skyy God 08-16-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9887773)
Sometimes, I like to tease the waiter/tress a little when they bring the check and I'll deadpan ask them "how do you feel about tips?" They'll usually give me the "huh" look and I'll say "would you say you are for them or against them". Typically it results in a nice exchange and I tip well.

A while back, I was eating with a coworker and at the end of the meal I ask the waitress "how do you feel about tips". She looks at me like I've just shat upon my plate and then I realize she's a..top heavy gal......I laugh a little and then spell it....t-i-P-s tips....then she laughed.

If the servers are friendly and attentive, I take care of them.

Nothing creepy at all about this.....

MahiMike 08-16-2013 07:43 AM

I dont dare comment on this one...

kindra68 08-16-2013 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9889038)
... Do in house pizza bakers make less than minimum wage like waiters do?
...

the place i work, the hostesses and kitchen make more than minimum wage and still get tipped out.


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