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Mav 08-19-2013 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9900653)
76 yard Bono-bootleg for teh win!

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wow......

Mav 08-19-2013 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9900659)
I wonder if Kerry Collins qualifies?

He was really good for Carolina and then flamed out with the infamous clip of him smoking a stogie as he left the cop shop.

After that he went to a SB and took the Titans to a 13-3 record...
Yeah, he was okay with the Panthers, sucked with the Saints, went to New York and got to a super bowl, and then was okay in Tennessee.

Good call.

ChiliConCarnage 08-20-2013 03:58 AM
It seems the key to being a high round draft pick bust is being picked by a team that is locked into at least a decade of terrible play.

Several TB guys, Arizona. It is a bit shocking Detroits post-Barry run didn't produce anyone other than Mike Williams and that's stretching it.

Dayze 08-20-2013 06:06 AM
Cris Carter?

Lightrise 08-20-2013 06:11 AM
Jenkins should be a playmate for Bray. You never know.

Kaepernick 08-20-2013 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9900617)
Charles Rogers, then Mike Williams, then Calvin.

I actually REALLY liked Charles Rogers. Drugs, and injuries ruined his career. He had real potential though.
I don't remember Mike Williams. I remember Roy Williams. Fast, but he was always getting hurt.

patteeu 08-20-2013 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9902158)
I don't remember Mike Williams. I remember Roy Williams. Fast, but he was always getting hurt.
I knew there was another one, but I couldn't remember who it was. They were both Lions WR flops. Roy wasn't so bad, I guess, but he definitely never lived up to his draft spot.

Kaepernick 08-20-2013 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9900659)
I wonder if Kerry Collins qualifies?

He was really good for Carolina and then flamed out with the infamous clip of him smoking a stogie as he left the cop shop.

After that he went to a SB and took the Titans to a 13-3 record...
Collins & Dilfer. The 2 worst NFL QBs to get super bowl rings.

Mav 08-20-2013 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9902158)
I don't remember Mike Williams. I remember Roy Williams. Fast, but he was always getting hurt.
Mike Williams. The Guy from Southern Cal. Took the year off with Clarett. Played with the seahawks two years ago.

jd1020 08-20-2013 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9902162)
Collins & Dilfer. The 2 worst NFL QBs to get super bowl rings.
Do you mean Brad Johnson and Dilfer?

Deberg_1990 08-20-2013 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9902161)
I knew there was another one, but I couldn't remember who it was. They were both Lions WR flops. Roy wasn't so bad, I guess, but he definitely never lived up to his draft spot.
The Lions drafted Rodgers, Roy Williams and Mike Williams back to back to back in the 1st round in 2003, 2004, 2005.

Kaepernick 08-20-2013 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9902179)
Do you mean Brad Johnson and Dilfer?
IIRC, Brad Johnson had a career year in 2002 when TB won the super bowl, and was actually a very good QB. He was sort of the anti-Alex. Lousy efficiency but decent production.

I am under the impression that Doug Williams and Rob Johnson were a step up from Dilfer & Colllins, but I could well be wrong.

DaneMcCloud 08-20-2013 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9902246)
IIRC, Brad Johnson had a career year in 2002 when TB won the super bowl, and was actually a very good QB. He was sort of the anti-Alex. Lousy efficiency but decent production.
Your memory is completely faulty.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...J/JohnBr00.htm

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9902246)
I am under the impression that Doug Williams and Rob Johnson were a step up from Dilfer & Colllins, but I could well be wrong.
Rob Johnson, the USC QB drafted by Jacksonville, traded to Buffalo and was later with the Bucs? He sucked ass. Strong arm, no accuracy.

Doug Williams was a very good quarterback on a some very bad Tampa Bay teams, although he did take his team to their first NFC Championship. He was very good in the USFL and won a Super Bowl in Washington.

jd1020 08-20-2013 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9902246)
IIRC, Brad Johnson had a career year in 2002 when TB won the super bowl, and was actually a very good QB. He was sort of the anti-Alex. Lousy efficiency but decent production.

I am under the impression that Doug Williams and Rob Johnson were a step up from Dilfer & Colllins, but I could well be wrong.
I was going more down the line of Kerry Collins not having a SB ring.

Easy 6 08-20-2013 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9900434)
Bettis was battling injuries year 2 and 3 and STL thought he was done.

Some of the plays he was able to make year 1 and 2 in Pitt were just freakish. For a guy his size it didn't seem possible...
Watching Bettis in action gave me a hardon, he could literally crush backers but also had those oh-so nimble feet and deceptive quicks.

I'd love for the Chiefs to find his reincarnation.


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