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saphojunkie 11-15-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10189979)
Well, I put those in quotes for a reason.

Let me ask you: Are some people more susceptible to depression, PTSD and other mental disorders?

Not PTSD, no.

Donger 11-15-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10189991)
Not PTSD, no.

Why not?

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-15-2013 02:19 PM

When is it ever not the accuser's fault on ChiefsPlanet?

chiefzilla1501 11-15-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10189537)
Depression is a chronic disease that must be dealt with. Hypertension is chronic, and people seek treatment for it is well. It is possible to have a sick brain, just like sick body.

What I think could swing this case is if the guy deadspin believed to be incognitos dad was right in saying martin was known to be suicidal. If it's true, it changes what should be or not be appropriate behavior.

nychief 11-15-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10189979)
Well, I put those in quotes for a reason.

Let me ask you: Are some people more susceptible to depression, PTSD and other mental disorders?

look I'm no expert, but to lump those three things together is not right. Depression and other mental disorders run in families.... PTSD is a whole different thing, it is not genetic. It has to do with the trauma you go through, it can be a ****ing car crash or rape or being married to me. You aren't weak if you suffer, regardless of what caused it.

This argument always comes down to dudes puffing out their chests and thinking they would never be affected by abuse. I think it is more sophisticated than that.

Rausch 11-15-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10190007)
When is it ever not the accuser's fault on ChiefsPlanet?

When it's a DC thread...

Pitt Gorilla 11-15-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10189973)
Because it traumatized me.

You have an actual diagnosis of PTSD from watching a movie? If not, it appears you have no idea what PTSD actually means.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-15-2013 02:22 PM

Jonathan Martin is a pussy/Guy in Dockers and a Land's End polo, typing in a cube farm, constantly craning his neck so that his boss won't see him on a message board during work hours.

Donger 11-15-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 10190011)
look I'm no expert, but to lump those three things together is not right. Depression and other mental disorders run in families.... PTSD is a whole different thing, it is not genetic. It has to do with the trauma you go through, it can be a ****ing car crash or rape or being married to me. You aren't weak if you suffer, regardless of what caused it.

This argument always comes down to dudes puffing out their chests and thinking they would never be effected by abuse. I think it is more sophisticated than that.

Actually, I was just reading that there might indeed be a genetic predisposition to it. So, yes, you apparently are not an expert. You may, however, be a cave man.

Steron 11-15-2013 02:23 PM

I find it interesting that we are all so quick to dismiss his claim of PTSD as bogus. None of us had any idea what happened in that locker room. Not a single one of us was there. All we have is what has been reported in the media and what Incognito has said. Martin has remained silent.

I understand football players have this macho persona and we expect them to be these ultra-tough manly men that nothing can bother. Especially when you're a 300 pound massive human being.

I have heard and read a lot of people say "I would have just knocked Richie's teeth down his throat." Maybe some of us would have. My guess is it would be an extremely low percentage of us that would follow through on the threat. Obviously Martin wasn't wired that way.

The assertions that Martin is doing this as a "cash grab" and that setting up for a law suit are ridiculous. He has said that he wants to play football again but doesn't feel like he can return to the Miami Dolphins for obvious reasons. Would he admit to PTSD if he ever wanted to play again? I would think this would make him, right or wrong, damaged goods in the eyes of many General Managers.

At the end of the day, maybe - just maybe, what happened in that locker room lead to what Martin is dealing with now.

Donger 11-15-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10190020)
You have an actual diagnosis of PTSD from watching a movie? If not, it appears you have no idea what PTSD actually means.

Yes. Every time I see or worse, hear, Alec Baldwin, I pee myself.

nychief 11-15-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10190022)
Jonathan Martin is a pussy/Guy in Dockers and a Land's End polo, typing in a cube farm, constantly craning his neck so that his boss won't see him on a message board during work hours.

So, he is everybody on CP?

nychief 11-15-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10190025)
Actually, I was just reading that there might indeed be a genetic predisposition to it. So, yes, you apparently are not an expert. You may, however, be a cave man.

Where are you reading it? Pass it on brother.

Donger 11-15-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 10190034)
Where are you reading it? Pass it on brother.

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topic...sd/index.shtml

nychief 11-15-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10190037)

thanks. will read... so this would absolve mr. martin of being a pussy, right?


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