It's funny, at first I thought this idea had some merit. However, I was surprised there were even 5 misses last year. That almost makes me want to keep it. That's one game every 3 weeks affected by a missed XP. These guys are professionals, if you can't execute that play you almost deserve to be punished.

Theres something to be said for tradition... Goodell has went ****ing bonkers with his power, one day its change the extra point the next its make the defense count to 3 mississippi before rushing the QB.

They can do both.

Make the player that scored the touchdown kick the extra point

Is it 0.4% or 0.04%?

So here is the extra point rule:

After a touchdown, the scoring team is allowed a try during one scrimmage down. The ball may be spotted anywhere between the inbounds lines, two or more yards from the goal line. The successful conversion counts one point by kick; two points for a successful conversion by touchdown; or one point for a safety.
The defensive team never can score on a try. As soon as defense gets possession or the kick is blocked or a touchdown is not scored, the try is over.
Any distance penalty for fouls committed by the defense that prevent the try from being attempted can be enforced on the succeeding try or succeeding kickoff. Any foul committed on a successful try will result in a distance penalty being assessed on the ensuing kickoff.
Only the fumbling player can recover and advance a fumble during a try.

So based on all of this how does the offense score a safety? Sorry had a root canal today and still kinda foggy.

Found my answer:
The only scenario in which a one-point safety could be scored in NFL play would involve the defense kicking or batting a loose ball out the back of the end zone without taking possession of the ball.

I seem to remember that happening once.

I know I'm probably in the minority, and probably just speaking from my bias, but I hate the extra point. It's just an extra, unnecessary play IMO.

Is there any thought given to moving the two point conversion closer? Maybe put it at the 1 or 1.5 yard mark while also putting the kick attempt out farther? Some combination could be figured out that makes both plays worth watching but still provides greater risk with the one worth twice the other.

No, the argument is that when you plan a major rule change like this and your only rationale is to shorten the game, that's silly. I was a huge fan of the OT rule change and still am. Because the old system was horribly broken. In this case, we're talking about a rule change that, even if only in a small way, makes the system worse.

Does it? Was anybody even talking about until the NFL brought it up?

Contradicted yourself in one post. Nice.

In the NFL it was 1940 I think but in the college game it happened in the KSU-Oregon Fiesta Bowl.

I was just digging around and saw college examples, but couldn't find any NFL examples.