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BossChief 02-01-2014 01:46 PM

Alex Smith

First half of games:

15tds
1int

Second half of games

8td
6int

htismaqe 02-01-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10405945)
Lol?

I hate Matt Ryan.

He's the most overrated QB on this message board.

I used to be indifferent but it got old listening to everybody fawn over him.

O.city 02-01-2014 01:49 PM

Ryan has also been in the same system iirc, each year in the league.

He's a good qb, good enough to win a SB. Just not in his own, he needs talent around him. His contract is gonna make that tough, ie, he needs to play up to hi contract for them to win big games

htismaqe 02-01-2014 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10405956)
Ryan has also been in the same system iirc, each year in the league.

He's a good qb, good enough to win a SB. Just not in his own, he needs talent around him. His contract is gonna make that tough, ie, he needs to play up to hi contract for them to win big games

He'll never win a Super Bowl.

Mav 02-01-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10405954)
I hate Matt Ryan.

He's the most overrated QB on this message board.

I used to be indifferent but it got old listening to everybody fawn over him.

I never understood the love affair with him. I really didn't.

The year they drafted him, they also drafted Sam Baker, who had a really good Rookie year, not sure what his deal is now though, they signed Michael Turner, had Roddy White, and every year it seems they have added weapon after weapon, including drafting Julio Jones, trading for Tony Gonzalez, and continued to add add add. They built around your franchise qb the way that you are supposed to.

THe same thing has happened with Andy Dalton.

They are one in the same qbs to me. The biggest difference is in my opinion is that one plays 9 games minimum a year in a dome, the other plays in Cincinnatti.

Cant stand either one of them.

Although, seeing Dalton fail over and over, helps when you are a browns fan.

What a garbage can.

O.city 02-01-2014 01:52 PM

Never ever say never ever.

With the current front office there, I agree. Tbh, I think they already blew their wad and that team is on the way to being blown up. Plus that division is brutal

GordonGekko 02-01-2014 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10405954)
I hate Matt Ryan.

He's the most overrated QB on this message board.

I used to be indifferent but it got old listening to everybody fawn over him.

His #'s have been solid.

And before the horrible year Atlanta just had, Matt Ryan as starter was 56-22 (72% winning) and the Falcons made the playoffs 4 out of 6 seasons.

Solid.

You can go on about his failures in postseason play, but as Chiefs fans we are not qualified to comment in this matter.

htismaqe 02-01-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10405963)
Never ever say never ever.

With the current front office there, I agree. Tbh, I think they already blew their wad and that team is on the way to being blown up. Plus that division is brutal

Why? If he wins one, I'm wrong. If he doesn't I'm right. Either way it means nothing.

He'll never, EVER win a Super Bowl.

80% plus of Super Bowls are won by guys under a manageable contract. His contract is now a hindrance to building a team around him. They've now entered the "patch it together" and hope for the best phase. At best, you can get to the Super Bowl if you have a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. He's no Manning or Brady.

htismaqe 02-01-2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10405968)
His #'s have been solid.

And before the horrible year Atlanta just had, Matt Ryan as starter was 56-22 (72% winning) and the Falcons made the playoffs 4 out of 6 seasons.

Solid.

0-4 in the playoffs.

GordonGekko 02-01-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10405973)
0-4 in the playoffs.

Again as Chiefs fans we are not qualified to comment on this matter. Matt Ryan at least gets them into the dance which is a lot more than many teams can say. To win the Big One you have to at least have a ticket to ride, and Ryan gets them the ticket. He is also still in his 20's, for example Elway didn't break through until his mid-30's.

BossChief 02-01-2014 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10405956)
Ryan has also been in the same system iirc, each year in the league.

He's a good qb, good enough to win a SB. Just not in his own, he needs talent around him. His contract is gonna make that tough, ie, he needs to play up to hi contract for them to win big games

It's hard to win when from one year to the next you lose most of your quality starters to injury or free agency and your defense and running games are at the bottom of the barrel and you lose both starting receivers and your starting running back to injuries.

Weatherspoon
Abraham
Baker
Jones
White
Clabo
Grimes
Jackson

I know I'm missing a couple guys, but you get the point.

Every NFL quarterback needs talent around him to win.

Except Tom Brady, I guess.

O.city 02-01-2014 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10405971)
Why? If he wins one, I'm wrong. If he doesn't I'm right. Either way it means nothing.

He'll never, EVER win a Super Bowl.

80% plus of Super Bowls are won by guys under a manageable contract. His contract is now a hindrance to building a team around him. They've now entered the "patch it together" and hope for the best phase. At best, you can get to the Super Bowl if you have a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. He's no Manning or Brady.

I agree in regards to the contract

htismaqe 02-01-2014 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10405979)
Again as Chiefs fans we are not qualified to comment on this matter. Matt Ryan at least gets them into the dance which is a lot more than many teams can say. To win the Big One you have to at least have a ticket to ride, and Ryan gets them the ticket. He is also still in his 20's, Elway didn't break through until his mid-30's.

Elway played in a different era.

There's an almost direct relationship between a QBs contract and the number of rings he has over the past 20 years.

GordonGekko 02-01-2014 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10405971)
Why? If he wins one, I'm wrong. If he doesn't I'm right. Either way it means nothing.

He'll never, EVER win a Super Bowl.

80% plus of Super Bowls are won by guys under a manageable contract. His contract is now a hindrance to building a team around him. They've now entered the "patch it together" and hope for the best phase. At best, you can get to the Super Bowl if you have a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. He's no Manning or Brady.

Brady hasn't won a SB since Spygate, and if Manning loses to Wilson he is 1-2 in the big dance.

Mav 02-01-2014 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10405982)
It's add to win when from one year to the next you lose most of your quality starters to injury or free agency.

Weatherspoon
Abraham
Baker
Jones
White
Clabo
Grimes
Jackson

I know I'm missing a couple guys, but you get the point.

Every NFL quarterback needs talent around him to win.

Except Tom Brady, I guess.

Or Alex Smith. :thumb:


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