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RealSNR 03-12-2014 11:52 AM
Andy Reid brought in a dog killer PR nightmare and made him his starting QB. And he was pretty successful.

Incognito wouldn't be a challenge to the team chemistry. Not in Andy Reid's locker room.

God, I hope this happens. He's the only guard in free agency who doesn't suck complete dick and would be an instant starter on the cheap.

jd1020 03-12-2014 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10484034)
And he could toughen up Eric Fisher.:hmmm:
Wasn't his "toughness" the reason we picked him over the other tackles that were better?

BossChief 03-12-2014 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10484031)
yea but this why you pay Andy Reid the big bucks, he, unlike that awkward weirdo Philbin in Miami, can handle that kind of media attention/distraction. He did it for a decade in Philly, multiple times with multiple players.
Good point.

mcaj22 03-12-2014 11:55 AM
Icognito would be the perfect counter move to Denver's DeMarcus Ware.

Icognito pulling around the edge laying a massive hit on that softie Ware would be the toughness the Chiefs need to compete.

OldSchool 03-12-2014 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10484039)
Wasn't his "toughness" the reason we picked him over the other tackles that were better?
His upside.

LoneWolf 03-12-2014 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10483684)
We have no way of knowing that at this point. Marcus Cooper could show another year of development, and the Chiefs could draft a CB in the early rounds of either the 2014 or 2015 draft. Not the mention the Chiefs will have the $ and draft pick ammo to sign a blue chipper off the market or trade for one.
They're not going to release both of their starting corners in one offseason to save salary cap money. One maybe, but not both. Pull your head out of your ass.

RealSNR 03-12-2014 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10484051)
They're not going to release both of their starting corners in one offseason to save salary cap money. One maybe, but not both. Pull your head out of your ass.
Exactly. If that's the case, then we better be going on a CB-drafting binge in the 2014 draft. And we have other needs to fill.

OldSchool 03-12-2014 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10484051)
They're not going to release both of their starting corners in one offseason to save salary cap money. One maybe, but not both. Pull your head out of your ass.
They'll release the pipsqeak Flowers. He can't cover anyone as is getting overpaid by about 6 mil a year at this point in his career.

bigjosh 03-12-2014 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10484047)
Icognito would be the perfect counter move to Denver's DeMarcus Ware.

Icognito pulling around the edge laying a massive hit on that softie Ware would be the toughness the Chiefs need to compete.

Not to mention, he'd call him the n word and bang his mother as well.

But seriously I would give incognito a couple years at a small contract if I knew he wouldn't end up suspended or something.

Direckshun 03-12-2014 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10484047)
Icognito would be the perfect counter move to Denver's DeMarcus Ware.

Icognito pulling around the edge laying a massive hit on that softie Ware would be the toughness the Chiefs need to compete.
Holy shit. That's legitimately brilliant.

Mcaj22 actually had a legitimately brilliant idea.

Bowser 03-12-2014 12:03 PM
Incognito is a better option by far than anything we have on our roster currently. And I'm with D - I'd love to see him pounding on Ware and Miller.

RealSNR 03-12-2014 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 10484061)
Not to mention, he'd call him the n word and bang his mother as well.

But seriously I would give incognito a couple years at a small contract if I knew he wouldn't end up suspended or something.
If Incognito is making a return, he'll do it to get his career back on track. There's no way he signs a multi-year deal unless it's absolutely drizzled with incentives. And I'm not sure how you quantify incentives for an offensive lineman other than games played/started.

He'll probably take a one-year deal cheap then seek a higher contract the following season. He knows he has to hurry, too, because he's already 30 years old.

We could really use him. Even if it's just for a year, I hope we bring his ass aboard ASAP.

Simplicity 03-12-2014 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10484076)
If Incognito is making a return, he'll do it to get his career back on track. There's no way he signs a multi-year deal unless it's absolutely drizzled with incentives. And I'm not sure how you quantify incentives for an offensive lineman other than games played/started.

He'll probably take a one-year deal cheap then seek a higher contract the following season. He knows he has to hurry, too, because he's already 30 years old.

We could really use him. Even if it's just for a year, I hope we bring his ass aboard ASAP.
Dude, **** it... Let's do it... Print em.

ct 03-12-2014 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10483971)
Overpay him? Show me his contract details....otherwise you're just speculating.
As word comes out they intend to start him @RT, the numbers are pretty likely far more than we would pay for short term RG starter money.

I wanted him back too, but the contract needs to resemble the player, or else you're the Oakland Raiders. We already have Dwayne Bowe and Shaun Smith signed last year to, imo, overvalued contracts. Trying to keep Albert and/or Schwartz and/or Jackson etc at the contracts they are getting out there (still speculative on Schwartz you are right), does not help us at all for the long haul.

However, we do have too many holes to fill for what should be year2 in a rebuilding program. I understand all the frustration, but look at like a business 1st and sport 2nd, as we all know the Hunts do, and winning back the fans to maximize revenue, THEN let overvalued guys go, is exactly what's happening.

ct 03-12-2014 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10483977)
so what are our options and filling the gigantic void at RG next season?

a) Rookie, (cue Zack Martin jokes) whether a first rounder, 3rd, 4th, 5th.

so another season of a rookie olineman alligator arming defenders coming in clean on Alex Smith. Just when I thought we got through this with Eric Fisher last year, the circle repeats itself

b) Rishaw Johnson/Eric Kush rotational experiments - Always a good thing when you are putting all your chips in on an undrafted player or a 5th round draft pick from a DII school with little to no experience. This isn't a huge gamble or anything with no insurance policy if they fail.

c) Some cheap slapdick 30+ year old veteran - Probably lacking in strength but makes up for in experience, similar to our Ryan Lilja years aka back to square one of mediocrity.

there's your options to replace Schwartz. None of them are that attractive.
So a 1st round OG is bad (potentially Zach Martin), so is a 2nd rounder (Jeff Allen), same can be said for C (Cowboys last year), they can be found on day3. So we have a couple guys who fit that exactly in Kush and Johnson (UDFA), but they aren't proven enough to get a chance. So I just wanna ask, who is the right fit for you? What's the magic number? 4th round? 3rd round? Anything higher is a waste for interior lineman, anything later is just a D2 chump or an overrated D1 bum? What's the secret formula?


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