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saphojunkie 05-07-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10607811)
If a parent fails to respond to an opt-out notice for whatever reason, the child is assigned the material.

If a parent fails to respond to an opt-in notice for whatever reason, the child is NOT assigned the material.

It's a fundamental shift from implicit to explicit participation.

****ing reeruned. Let's leave it up to the kids to report to their parents whether or not they should have to do homework.

"Johnny, did you bring back the note from your dad saying you have to do homework?"

"He wouldn't sign it. He thinks it's offensive."

"Did you actually give it to him?"

"Of course I did! This is opt-in! You can't force me!"

"Okay... Katie? Did you bring your note?"

"My dad thought it was offensive, too. He says I can't read it."

"Okay, well the two of you are excused from class while we discuss page 313."

*they leave and go have anal sex in her car*

htismaqe 05-07-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10608061)
****ing reeruned. Let's leave it up to the kids to report to their parents whether or not they should have to do homework.

"Johnny, did you bring back the note from your dad saying you have to do homework?"

"He wouldn't sign it. He thinks it's offensive."

"Did you actually give it to him?"

"Of course I did! This is opt-in! You can't force me!"

"Okay... Katie? Did you bring your note?"

"My dad thought it was offensive, too. He says I can't read it."

"Okay, well the two of you are excused from class while we discuss page 313."

*they leave and go have anal sex in her car*

:facepalm:

You do know that schools use email and contact parents DIRECTLY with shit like this, right?

I mean, the public schools are run by idiots but even they aren't this ****ing stupid.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-07-2014 07:31 PM

I don't have a problem with the content of that page. Our society has incredibly ****ed up views regarding sex and violence. Lord of the Flies, which includes children murdering other children, is far more graphic and heinous than almost any non-rape scene imaginable.

Now, that's not to say that LotF is bannable, because it's not.

The teacher failed, not in choosing some salacious, but by choosing a text from an author known for vacuous, lowest-common-denominator plots.

I have some personal experience with a similar situation. I've had a student who refused to read Choke because he was, in his words, a Christian and it offended him. What I found interesting was that this same student had no issues reading a novel wherein a child describes the graphic murder of three children.

I've also had a student who refused to read "Going to Meet the Man" by James Baldwin. The ignorance of the student bothered me greatly because she didn't consider why there might be value in reading something that makes you uncomfortable because it just may challenge your values and help you better understand yourself and others.

Garcia Bronco 05-07-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10608454)
The ignorance of the student bothered me greatly because she didn't consider why there might be value in reading something that makes you uncomfortable because it just may challenge your values and help you better understand yourself and others.

Great point about reading ideas you don't like.

DaveNull 05-07-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10608454)
I've had a student who refused to read Choke because he was, in his words, a Christian and it offended him.

His loss. Choke was great fun.

Pitt Gorilla 05-07-2014 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10608454)
I don't have a problem with the content of that page. Our society has incredibly ****ed up views regarding sex and violence. Lord of the Flies, which includes children murdering other children, is far more graphic and heinous than almost any non-rape scene imaginable.

Now, that's not to say that LotF is bannable, because it's not.

The teacher failed, not in choosing some salacious, but by choosing a text from an author known for vacuous, lowest-common-denominator plots.

I have some personal experience with a similar situation. I've had a student who refused to read Choke because he was, in his words, a Christian and it offended him. What I found interesting was that this same student had no issues reading a novel wherein a child describes the graphic murder of three children.

I've also had a student who refused to read "Going to Meet the Man" by James Baldwin. The ignorance of the student bothered me greatly because she didn't consider why there might be value in reading something that makes you uncomfortable because it just may challenge your values and help you better understand yourself and others.

We had a student who wanted to have a technology class replaced with something else because her religion "didn't believe in technology." I assured her that it existed.

Jimmya 05-08-2014 05:19 AM

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HEARNE, Texas (AP) — A 93-year-old Central Texas woman was fatally shot at her home by a police officer answering a call about a person with a gun, authorities said.

Pearlie Golden, a longtime resident of Hearne who was affectionately known to her neighbors as Ms. Sully, was shot Tuesday night, Robertson County District Attorney Coty Siegert said.

"She did have a gun. ... Now, what she was doing with it, that is the ultimate question," said Siegert.

The investigation is being handled by the Texas Rangers. Once the investigation is complete, the case will be presented to a grand jury, Siegert said.

City attorney Bryan Russ Jr. said the officer has been put on paid administrative leave as is standard protocol when an officer is involved in a shooting. "What we believe is that she was instructed to drop the weapon, that is my understanding," Russ said.

He could not comment any further because the investigation is ongoing.

Hearne is a town of about 4,500 people that's about 140 miles south of Dallas.

Mosbonian 05-08-2014 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10608454)
I have some personal experience with a similar situation. I've had a student who refused to read Choke because he was, in his words, a Christian and it offended him. What I found interesting was that this same student had no issues reading a novel wherein a child describes the graphic murder of three children.

I've also had a student who refused to read "Going to Meet the Man" by James Baldwin. The ignorance of the student bothered me greatly because she didn't consider why there might be value in reading something that makes you uncomfortable because it just may challenge your values and help you better understand yourself and others.

I agree wholeheartedly on the above....there are books that were assigned to my daughter that I found personally offensive, but still chose to let her read them because I don't want her to live in a bubble. She is headed off to college next year and the last thing I want her to be is naïve when it comes to reading material.

We only opted out on one book her whole HS career, and the wife & I talked about that one for several days before making that decision. And it was more on a personal level about whether she was emotionally/mentally prepared to understand the message in the book.

My biggest concerns when it comes to the classroom is less the material being read, and more the presenter. Teachers with agendas, while a very small percentage, are still troublesome to me.

DaveNull 05-08-2014 06:40 AM

Oh come on....what was the book you opted out of?

LiveSteam 05-08-2014 06:46 AM

Call in the Militia.

LoneWolf 05-08-2014 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 10609033)
Oh come on....what was the book you opted out of?

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. There is a large snake which is a direct representation of a penis and all the sexual tension between Harry and Hermione could be confusing to young readers.

WhawhaWhat 05-08-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 10609033)
Oh come on....what was the book you opted out of?

The Bible.

loochy 05-08-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 10609037)
Call in the Militia.

Call in St. Joe's MRAP.

Mosbonian 05-08-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10609138)
The Bible.

Funny as you were trying to be, your joke was out of date.

The Bible isn't allowed in school anymore.

loochy 05-08-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 10609033)
Oh come on....what was the book you opted out of?

Basics of Grammar


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