Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10831834)

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10831835)

Up the ass? :D

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10831804)

If they don't sign Alex Smith to an extension, this has all been a colossal failure.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10831850)

There is the conundrum. Signing Alex Smith to an extension like he is supposedly wanting, $17+mil a year with no out clause, will hamstring this team to a point that it will just as easy to be a failure.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10831661)

Bingo.

Go out and give up a small fortune (in draft picks) for Alex Smith and then surround him with garbage and potentially get him killed.

****ing brilliant.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10831787)

The correct course of action was to trade Houston, Berry and JC in order to correctly rebuild the team.

But Clark cared more about the bottom line and wanted gate revenue instead.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10831833)

Fasano would be a nice #2 TE. He's not a #1. In him and Kelce, you potentially have two complimentary guys and no actual standout. We can hope about Kelce though. I don't pay much mind to Harris. He looks like one of those guys that will never see the field. All hype, no substance.



They didn't HAVE to draft Fisher to let Albert go. There were other possible solutions. Drafting Fisher 1.1 and then having him suck puts them in a deep hole. Even if Alex Smith is BETTER than they thought he could be, it might amount to nothing if they're biggest, and arguably most important, draft pick is a failure.



Part of the reason Allen and Stephenson might be struggling is because we're changing systems and schemes AGAIN. There's been no continuity on this line, in terms of personnel or scheme, and that hurts them. I've talked to Casey Wiegmann many times and he's always said the #1 factor in the success and/or failure of an offensive line is cohesion. This line has none. This is another area where drafting Fisher, inserting him at RT for a season, and then shuffling him to the other side (forcing Stephenson to move) may have done more harm than good.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10831554)

That still doesn't mean it makes sense as a viable long-term approach for doing things.

If "being respectable" was truly mandated in 2013, and that's what led to the Alex Smith deal, all the FA signings, etc, with anything other than the goal of building a long-term winner in mind, **** Clark Hunt.

Now, maybe Alex Smith really is a guy they looked at as bridging the gap between this prospective "ultimatum" to not suck and building long-term. Maybe. If that's the case, and Andy Reid really likes him that much, it makes signing him long-term even more important.

Problem is, all those shitty FA signings from 2013 to satisfy this prospective "ultimatum" potentially handcuff the Chiefs in keeping Smith and actually retaining the best young player on their roster (Justin Houston).

If Clark Hunt put Dorsey in that spot and is to blame for the competing and counter-productive approaches, **** him.

But that would still be better than Dorsey flip-flopping his approach from year to year.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10831943)

There were no other options to letting Albert go. Don't even bring up Stephenson at LT bc he looked way worse than Fisher the other night.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10831962)

I agree but I also don't. None of the moves handcuff us from signing everybody except bowe and even that is workable. Fasano, Daniel, Avery, devito... These guys are easy to cut.

The Chiefs will have decent enough space next year and a shitload of space in 2016.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10831966)

Easy to cut.

Yet they won't.

What's the excuse going to be when they don't unload all of these guys?

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10831962)

I agree but I also don't. None of the moves handcuff us from signing everybody except bowe and even that is workable. Fasano, Daniel, Avery, devito... These guys are easy to cut.

The Chiefs will have decent enough space next year and a shitload of space in 2016.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10832002)

Only on CP. Not a single game of the 2014 season, yet fans are looking forward to the available cap space in 2016 so the team can make a run by 2018. Laugh at us now, but just you wait, as soon as Andrew Luck retires KC will be a force to be reckoned with!

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10831965)

He was playing out of position. Stephenson is a natural left tackle and probably would have been a 1st round pick if he had stayed in school. Unlike Fisher, we have actual games where we watched him play well at LT.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10832061)

No way. Stephenson got pushed back into Alex all night. That's not a position problem. That's a strength problem