Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11045343)

Two months is not a representative sample size. If it was, Chris Shelton would be Babe Ruth and not a scrub, and Mike Morse would have been the AL MVP last year.

If he was just swinging and missing, he wouldn't be drawing more walks.

He's also not flying out on the infield at a ruinous rate. If he was, his IFF% would correlate with poor hitting months, and it isn't there. He hit more IFFs in May than September and posted his second best month of offensive production for the entire year.

In August Gordon tore the cover off the ball. He saw 475 pitches, of which, 293 were strikes, for a 61.6% strike rate. And he killed the ball that month.

In September Gordon saw 445 pitches, of which, 256 were strikes, for a 57.5% strike percentage.

That indicates that he was actually more selective in September.

The data just doesn't support your conclusion.

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11045322)

all of the money we'll save on Butler and Shields is going to go to arbitration raises

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11045476)

Not if he's swinging and missing good pitches. I said he was still being selective. Two months is not insignificant. He's striking out more and getting on base less. You can analyze it all you want but that's the bottom line and over a two-month period, it is worth being concerned about.

Are you trying to argue he's been just as good the last two months as he was prior? You're just saying he's been unlucky?

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11045503)

Yes, he's been unlucky. Every metric you can find supports that conclusion.

He's not swinging and missing good pitches. That's demonstrated by his OSwing%, his ZSwing% and his contact rate

There is also not a single person in the analytical field who things that 150 PAs is a significant sample size.

Yes, he's been just as good. That's supported by his walk rate, and his LD rate. He's hitting the ball just as hard and walking more often. He's not swinging at a lot more strikes. If that was the case, he wouldn't have seen four percent fewer strikes.

In order for your claim to have validity, he'd have to be missing at pitches out of the zone 30% more than he normally does, and there is no indication that is the case.

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11045322)

all of the money we'll save on Butler and Shields is going to go to arbitration raises

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11045484)

No

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11045606)

Holland is gonna get like a 5M raise, Hosmer 2M, Cain 3M, Dyson 1.5M, Escobar 2M, Moose 2M, Herrera 2M, Davis 3M

so yep

Glass is gonna have to give Dayton 100-110 to play with, and much deserved, after what we've done this year...we're gonna sell more season tickets, and we certainly have a team built for another deep playoff run which is pure profit for the Royals as well

and 2019 is gonna be a big, big, big payday for Glass...so we can operate in the red while our core is still together for a few years

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11045546)

I'm not saying you can judge someone's career by a given stretch that size. But it's 25% of the season. It's got to mean something.