I want us to draft a first round QB so badly it hurts, but it's ridiculous that the Chiefs could literally draft a Jamarcus Russel type bust, and that would placate posters like Discus Thrower.

It shouldn't be about drafting a QB in the first. It should be about getting a franchise QB. It just so happens that a first round pick is statistically the best way to get one. But I don't give a shit if they trade for him or sign him off the street.

Or trade two second round picks to the San Francisco 49'ers.

Just get a guy who will win a super bowl. Everything else is just noise.

This.

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I don't believe Mellinger was saying that the safe route is the best choice always and forever.

Basically he was saying sometimes it's best to past on the dream girl if you hear that her vagina is blown out like a spare tire that has been used for 12 months and thousands of miles and is covered in da herps for the safe route. That tire is Geno Smith.

People should back off the ledge if they think he is definitely verbally blowing Alex Smith.

Is a bunch of crap.

Geno has the exact same issues he did the second half of his senior season. He knows what the issues are but cant correct them because that's who he is.

When the idea of trading for Alex Smith was proposed in the regular season, NOBODY but n00bs and 12-year olds liked it.

People eventually warmed up to the idea, some faster than others, but the universal reaction across the board was **** NO

In our defense it's not like we've seen many good ones up close and personal. Joe Montana and Trent Green in my lifetime. About what 6-7 seasons worth.

even if you did you would still **** it up....

I would agree with this. I keep hearing Rex Ryan, Jets.. never had a chance.. blah blah...

The reality of it is.. Geno had plenty of talent around him. He just couldn't keep from making the huge, game-changing mistakes. Stupid decision-making put him on the bench... not the Jets.

I say this while acknowledging that he's very young. Not at all hating on him or condemning Geno's career. He still could learn from his stupidity and become a quality starter.... maybe... but I wouldn't bet money on this happening. Just as I thought of him as a prospect.. I am skeptical that he has the mental makeup to strengthen through this process. If I turn out to be wrong later, hey, good for him.

That's the whole ****ing point. I am capable of acknowledging that what I want might not be what is best.

After the first rd was over everyone reasonable was like "well this is one shitty draft class for QB's, no less players in general."

If it hasn't been posted in some other thread.... (from AP)

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God bless Norm, one of the most underrated funny guys of all time, I'll never forgive Lorne Michaels for letting NBC pressure him into dumping Norm over the OJ jokes.

Matter of fact, I'm gonna let my old pal Lorne know just how I feel about it... he put me and kept me on his front page of friends on Myspace, so yeah, we're pretty tight.

edit* dammit SNR, now MY post looks outta place!

I disagree... the kid obviously has talent. You don't get to where he is without talent. He just isn't the rare, 1 in a million, person that can step onto any football field day one, regardless of scheme and personnel, and magically turn a franchise around.

Like most of these QB's out of college, they would benefit tremendously if they were afforded the opportunity to develop behind a veteran for at least a year (I'd actually like to see Rookie QB's "red-shirt" in the NFL for a year) and then give him a coach/coordinator that understands his strengths as well as his "issues" and 1) coaches him up and 2) puts him in the best position to succeed. With QB's I personally think it is rarely the QB that busts but rather the environment that he is thrown into. I think it is incumbent upon the organization to know all of that before they select in the draft to make sure the QB and the system/coach are a good fit. Otherwise you are just wrecking a potential career.

He's a one read QB who's not particularly accurate, and who folds under pressure. Those QBs don't generally improve, at least not early on. People who think the kid would have made it somewhere other than NY (though I'm sure NY isn't helping) are people who insist that he'd have been that special snowflake.