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kysirsoze 06-16-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 11551654)
Don't care, at this point I'll just embrace the hate. Wear it like a badge of honor.

Not much else to do.

Rams Fan 06-16-2015 02:20 PM

Guess I should be like Amnorix and continue denying any wrong doing of a team I support.

Hootie 06-16-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 11551681)
Guess I should be like Amnorix and continue denying any wrong doing of a team I support.

that's the honorable thing to do

kcpasco 06-16-2015 02:22 PM

I blame the Chinese.

Hootie 06-16-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 11551686)
I blame the Chinese.

now you're buying into the Patriots way!

Rams Fan 06-16-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11551685)
that's the honorable thing to do

I mean if you believe something didn't happen, even though there's evidence that something happened, your belief is ultimately correct, right?

Amnorix 06-16-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 11551681)
Guess I should be like Amnorix and continue denying any wrong doing of a team I support.


The Patriots violated the new rules handed down by the NFL in connection with Spygate. I have never denied that. I have seen internet chatter that the NFL could not unilaterally change those rules as it didn't go through the Competition Committee or otherwise (the NFL just sent a letter changing the rules), but I haven't delved much into that.

There's tremendous confusion over what Spygate was and wasn't, however, and I try to clarify that for those who are confused. :D

Deflategate seems to me to be mostly an unbelievably harsh penalty for sloppy procedures and very questionable science underlying the decision that rules were broken. Even if rules were broken, it seems to be me to the equivalent of jaywalking.

Neither are remotely on par with hacking the computer network of a rival team. Like not remotely in the same stratosphere.

Rams Fan 06-16-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 11551694)
The Patriots violated the new rules handed down by the NFL in connection with Spygate. I have never denied that. I have seen internet chatter that the NFL could not unilaterally change those rules as it didn't go through the Competition Committee or otherwise (the NFL just sent a letter changing the rules), but I haven't delved much into that.

There's tremendous confusion over what Spygate was and wasn't, however, and I try to clarify that for those who are confused. :D

Deflategate seems to me to be mostly an unbelievably harsh penalty for sloppy procedures and very questionable science underlying the decision that rules were broken. Even if rules were broken, it seems to be me to the equivalent of jaywalking.

Neither are remotely on par with hacking the computer network of a rival team. Like not remotely in the same stratosphere.

I'm not disagreeing about Deflategate. The entire thing is dumb.

However, Belichick should have been punished at least as much as Payton was. And, assuming the allegations are true against the Cardinals, whoever is responsible needs to be given the ax by the Cardinals or banned by MLB for life.

kcpasco 06-16-2015 02:32 PM

So that's where Rosenthal went. He is on the run from the Feds.

Hootie 06-16-2015 02:35 PM

the Patriots lost a 1st and 4th and were fined double the league maximum (2nd offense) for "jaywalking."

for sure

Marcellus 06-16-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 11551702)
So that's where Rosenthal went. He is on the run from the Feds.

Forearm tightness Lynn had was from sitting at a computer all night every night hacking MLB data bases.

kcxiv 06-16-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 11551694)

Deflategate seems to me to be mostly an unbelievably harsh penalty for sloppy procedures and very questionable science underlying the decision that rules were broken. Even if rules were broken, it seems to be me to the equivalent of jaywalking.

Neither are remotely on par with hacking the computer network of a rival team. Like not remotely in the same stratosphere.

As a Patriot hater, this is the most stupidest ****ing suspension in the history of sports. getting Suspended because the ball was deflated a little bit. ****ing really?


Lets be real he was only suspended because he told the NFL **** you im not handing over my cell phone.

Rausch 06-16-2015 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 11551736)
Lets be real he was only suspended because he told the NFL **** you im not handing over my cell phone.

And lying to them during the investigation...

Munson 06-16-2015 03:00 PM

Guilty as charged!

Eleazar 06-16-2015 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 11551694)
The Patriots violated the new rules handed down by the NFL in connection with Spygate.

Deflategate seems to me to be mostly an unbelievably harsh penalty for sloppy procedures and... rules were broken. Even if rules were broken, it seems to be me to the equivalent of jaywalking.

Neither are remotely on par with hacking the computer network of a rival team. Like not remotely in the same stratosphere.

Violating a league rule and doing things that land people in prison, more or less industrial espionage that entailed committing felonies, are indeed not even close to one another.

This is not close to what Pete Rose did, betting on games his team was in. This is not what favorite son Mark McGwire did, even though he was the second worst offender in history in that regard, that was only individual cheating.

This is an integrity of the game issue really. If teams can't run scouting organizations and correspond with each other without fear of some other team spying on them or stealing their information, what pretense of fair play is there?


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