So Berry sucks, abortion parts for sale are okay, we're "killing" the planet, Obammy is a great President, and Alex Smith is going to "turn the corner" in his 30's.

CP, ladies and gentlemen.

:facepalm:

Yup. Pioli is an incompetent moron who was so egotistical it cost him his job

Because when you have a complete player, you use him as a complete player. Berry played the run and pass great. Playing him deep would kill his run stopping ability.

He wasn't Ed Reed, I don't know why some of you guys are saying that. He has never been the ball hawk Reed was and Reed was never the run stopper and tackler that he is. He's in between Reed and Polamalu. Plays the run better than Reed but also plays the pass better than Polamalu.

We've said Ed Reed because they were labeling him as that coming out.

Whoever was labeling him that didn't know what they were talking about. Berry is a guy you want in on the action. Put him at deep safety and you've taken him out of the action and negates a lot of what makes him special.

Uh, because the level of talent on defense now is better than any defense Berry has played on before? And because Sutton is better than Crennel.

The talent last year was arguably worse than in 2013.

I know you're not calling him a bust I wasn't saying that. I was just saying you're putting him in with TJax and Baldwin is stupid. Berry wasn't a waste of resources.

And good teams like the Seahawks and Bengals love it bc teams get too scared to take guys but they just don't give a **** and they work out for them.

pretty much this.

Roll it to next season.

Maybe it is.

But by and large, NFL teams are better at it than they've ever been. Most of the studies done recently have pointed to the outcome that a truly 'great' draft is almost purely blind luck and most of these teams over a long enough timeline end up having almost identical draft successes.

I don't recall what the theory is called anymore but it essentially says that as skill levels rise, the importance of luck becomes even greater. When everyone's playing their C game, someone can come out and play their B game, still win and good luck or bad luck won't matter. When everyone is highly skilled and playing their A games, well the only place to separate yourself is by getting lucky.

If we're not there already with the NFL draft, we're fast approaching it.

"Getting 3.5 yrs of good SS play from the #5 overall pick and $60 million is a disappointing return" = "Berry sucks"

CP, indeed.

If some of you assholes would simply speak to what is said vs. what you would like to argue about, perhaps the conversation wouldn't devolve into this sort of idiocy.

I would rather berry have sucked than what's happened. I feel like alot of it was out of his hands with the ACL injury, then the foot injury\cancer season last year after coming off an all pro 2013 where he seemed to be ascending into a perennial all pro. Coupled wth the fact that they were going to use him as more of a ballhawk.

Sucks. Hope for his sake he comes back strong. He's a super strong dude.

Unfortunately it is what it is with Berry. I. just hope that we see Fisher, Ford and Kush become good players this season.