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Saccopoo 10-20-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11818297)
Sacc, is Hogan declaring this year? He's a senior, right?

Hogan is a senior. Four year starter at Stanford. Progressed every year and is really playing well right now.

When he's on, he looks like he should be the first pick in the draft.

I think he, like Lynch, still has their arrow pointing up in terms of getting better.

RealSNR 10-20-2015 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 11820715)
That's one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. I never claimed it was the end all and be all, but the stats are a good barometer on a players skill set.

Do you know the top 5 QBs in career NCAA passing yards?

1. Case Keenum
2. Timmy Chang
3. Landry Jones
4. Graham Harrell
5. Ty Detmer

Bad college stats generally mean you won't be able to hack it in the pros. Good college stats still make things a crapshoot. There's no correlation between one guy's stats being better than another player's and success in the NFL. They're just not a very useful evaluation criteria.

BigChiefFan 10-20-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11821401)
Do you know the top 5 QBs in career NCAA passing yards?

1. Case Keenum
2. Timmy Chang
3. Landry Jones
4. Graham Harrell
5. Ty Detmer

Bad college stats generally mean you won't be able to hack it in the pros. Good college stats still make things a crapshoot. There's no correlation between one guy's stats being better than another player's and success in the NFL. They're just not a very useful evaluation criteria.

You didn't read a damn thing I said if this is your response and your post has zero merit in discrediting my stance. My point on Cook is that he is consistent. Doesn't turn the ball over much. Delivers in the clutch. Plays in a Pro Style offense and has a strong arm and good accuracy. Stats don't tell the whole story, but disregarding them is asinine. If you don't like the player, fine by me, but don't pull shit out your ass and fling it on the wall, hoping it sticks.

RealSNR 10-20-2015 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 11821414)
You didn't read a damn thing I said if this is your response and your post has zero merit in discrediting my stance. My point on Cook is that he is consistent. Doesn't turn the ball over much. Delivers in the clutch. Plays in a Pro Style offense and has a strong arm and good accuracy. Stats don't tell the whole story, but disregarding them is asinine. If you don't like the player, fine by me, but don't pull shit out your ass and fling it on the wall, hoping it sticks.

Then you obviously didn't read mine, either.

I said they're a benchmark criteria. And that's it. They're not correlational. You can't draw a line between the better stats a guy has the more success he'll have.

And these days EVERY QB pretty much meets that benchmark criteria.

Therefore, they're not important at all.

go bo 10-20-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 11818139)
It's somewhere in the Alex Smith thread.

I'm just piling on him for being so mad that he took the time to build up enough to neg rep like 6 posts in around an hour insisting I was crying with all that no rep I leave lol

If I had any problems with him, it would be that he's a type of person that goes head first into any bullshit the Chiefs try to serve as roses and white knight for a dumb team. That fan type is why this team has no actual plan and unfortunately, they are the majority.

i don't know that i'd say that the majority of chiefs fans are like sr... :shake:

and after last year, i think the majority of fans are pretty reasonable and capable of expressing themselves better than any other fan base in the usa...

sr is really ok, he's just a little excitable and thinks in very concrete terms which makes it difficult to understand some of his more cryptic posts...

but he's always entertaining, if you don't take his comments too seriously...

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-21-2015 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11821361)
Hogan is a senior. Four year starter at Stanford. Progressed every year and is really playing well right now.

When he's on, he looks like he should be the first pick in the draft.

I think he, like Lynch, still has their arrow pointing up in terms of getting better.

If Lynch doesn't declare, I'm leaning more towards this guy every day.

Goff makes me uneasy and I swear every time I watch Cook, I hear a voice in the back of my head whispering "Sanchez".

Which is not necessarily a bad thing but Sanchez, when on in college, made Cook look like Thigpen.

I don't know where Hogan is projected right now but if we could pick him up in round 2, I wouldn't be too terribly upset, if that's possible.

Red Dawg 10-21-2015 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11818516)
Some mid con broke dick RG... Its safe and low risk of helping the franchise contend. Ensures 7-9 and BBQ smoke.

If They don't take a QB then shame on all the fans for going to the games. There shouldn't be any smoke.

the Talking Can 10-21-2015 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11818674)
Who did Roethlisberger face in college? How about Joe Flacco?

this

Indian Chief 10-21-2015 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11821401)
Do you know the top 5 QBs in career NCAA passing yards?

1. Case Keenum
2. Timmy Chang
3. Landry Jones
4. Graham Harrell
5. Ty Detmer

Dear lord that list is awful. Seeing Detmer also reminds me of the horrible performance of former Heisman winners in the NFL.

RunKC 10-23-2015 10:46 AM

Interesting take from a scout on Connor Cook..


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I asked one scout this week about Michigan State quarterback Connor Cook, and specifically the fact that he wasn't voted a team captain. His reply: "Did you like (AJ) McCarron? That's who he is.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ook-for-week-7

Having said that, I don't agree with that at all.

O.city 10-23-2015 10:58 AM

Cook has scattershot accuracy

oaklandhater 10-23-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11827094)
Cook has scattershot accuracy

Connor Cook is scary accurate as a draft prospect. He can make the throws with absolute precision

http://nflmocks.com/2015/05/16/conno...outing-report/

O.city 10-23-2015 11:05 AM

What's his completion percentage this year?

oaklandhater 10-23-2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11827110)
What's his completion percentage this year?

57.4

That being said his Wr's are dropping everything this year.

oaklandhater 10-23-2015 11:10 AM

He can make some amazing Short yard Passes he is scary accurate in the 1-15 yard range he would be perfect in a West Coast Offense.

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