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DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12178229)
Titans have 6 picks in the top 76 and already have their qb. Good place to be.
Keep in mind, the 2012 Rams thought the same thing. QB (Bradford) and lots of picks.

It didn't quite work out.

DJ's left nut 04-14-2016 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12178232)
If I'm the Titans.....I take one of those 2nd round picks and use my #15 to trade up into the top 10 to get Ronnie Stanley.
May need to go top 5.

He just looks like a no-doubter to Baltimore to me. And that's if he doesn't end up passing Tunsill by draft time.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12178241)
May need to go top 5.

He just looks like a no-doubter to Baltimore to me. And that's if he doesn't end up passing Tunsill by draft time.
The only problem is that they've invested in Taylor Lewan, who's never played anything but left tackle.

If they go with an LT, I'll bet they move Lewan to another team.

BossChief 04-14-2016 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12178239)
Using my premise that the top 100 picks make most NFL team.

The Rams traded away 6 guys who would probably make the team for one guy?

Bad trade Stan
If it works out and they have their QB locked up for the next decade, it's worth every penny.

Chief Roundup 04-14-2016 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12178239)
Using my premise that the top 100 picks make most NFL team.

The Rams traded away 6 guys who would probably make the team for one guy?

Bad trade Stan
Yeah but without that 1 guy, you know a quality QB, those other 6 players would be mediocre in terms of team success.

SAUTO 04-14-2016 10:50 AM
Fisher won't be around long I'm hearing...

SAUTO 04-14-2016 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12178248)
If it works out and they have their QB locked up for the next decade, it's worth every penny.
Stan is sold on someone. Wentz I'm hearing

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12178252)
Fisher won't be around long I'm hearing...
I expect him to be gone before moving to Inglewood in 2019 but surely, it's too late into the league year to fire him now...?

O.city 04-14-2016 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12178240)
Keep in mind, the 2012 Rams thought the same thing. QB (Bradford) and lots of picks.

It didn't quite work out.
The titans already have some good pieces on offense for mariota. The Rams never did dick on that side of the ball.

It's why I'm not using the Rams as an indicator this won't work out. They've been ****ing awful at just about everything

ROYC75 04-14-2016 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 12177822)
Damn, why couldn't we have gotten a deal like this when we had the #1 pick?
Because we really wanted that franchise left tackle!

O.city 04-14-2016 10:52 AM
The qb just has to be so good to make up for the loss of talent. Look at the best qbs around the league. You just can't do it alone.

DJ's left nut 04-14-2016 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12178239)
Using my premise that the top 100 picks make most NFL team.

The Rams traded away 6 guys who would probably make the team for one guy?

Bad trade Stan
Nah, just a philosophy shift. He's pushing his chips in and it's probably a good idea.

That team, as presently constructed, is going stale quickly. And sure, those 6 guys might even yield a couple of pretty significant contributors ('make the team' ain't exactly a high bar). But they'd probably still be capped at a 10 win team and a one and done with their QB situation.

So Stan's essentially saying - "fine, we're going all in on Wentz/Goff and if it doesn't work, we'll suck for 4 years, probably be drafting top 3 again and start over."

It's a hell of a lot better than spinning your wheels for 4 years and sitting there in 2020 with your brand new stadium being 1/2 full wondering what the hell you're going to do drafting 14 again.

RunKC 04-14-2016 10:55 AM
This draft sucks ass on offense for the most part after the first 10 picks. The Rams wouldn't have had any great prospects at 15 anyway.

Their entire OL is 2nd and 3rd year guys that they already drafted and are high on. They have an elite pass rush and a good defense overall.

They needed this so bad and I think this will get them in the playoffs.

O.city 04-14-2016 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12178235)
Nothing really matters but the QB, though.

If they take Wentz or Goff and that guy is the next star NFL QB, then they could give up 5 years worth of 1st rounders and it's probably still a worthwhile deal.

The Redskins trade wasn't bad because they gave up so much, it was bad because RGIII sucked balls. RGIII controlled the narrative on that trade, not the guys the Rams drafted.

It'll be the same thing here; all that matters is how good their chosen QB is. If he's good, nobody's going to give a shit what the Titans did with their ammo. At worst, it'll be seen as a massive win/win for both squads. And if he sucks, well who gives a shit, the Rams weren't going to win much mired in mediocrity for the next 5 years anyway. Those picks made their team just good enough to not suck and thus not bad enough to ever dig out of the middle.

This is a nice time for a homerun swing from LA, IMO.
The league is in transition from the great qb play of the past decade. Look around the league. I think we're seeing these teams figure out or start to understand the likelihood of having a HoF guy under center is really tough to get.

Even with a great qb, you've gotta build a great roster around him. That's gonna be tough with that few picks in the sort term but if it works, they can rebuild ut in 2 years around him.

DJ's left nut 04-14-2016 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12178261)
The qb just has to be so good to make up for the loss of talent. Look at the best qbs around the league. You just can't do it alone.
Eh, it took Ryan Grigson being shitty at his job for 5 years to drive the Colts this far down. When it was just a year or two of him not giving Luck anything to work with, Luck was still able to win games.

If the Rams use their remaining picks well over the next couple of years, it won't cripple them going forward. And when they get their full allotment back it'll be right about the time the rook QB is ready to really hit the accelerator anyway. They'll be fine if this kid is good. The lack of draft picks won't be what hurts them; missing on the QB will be what does it.


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