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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12196019)

Ok, so who's your projected starting lg right now and how is that any better than gaines?

Either LDT or Morse.

And I know what Andy said......

Finding the best 5 will be modus operandi with the Chiefs. Would not be shocked if they drafted a Center and moved Morse.

Like I stated earlier, Dorsey can't be entirely comfortable with Gaines as the #2 corner - not because of ability, but rather durability.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12196038)

But they may very well take a dl. That's fine, I can see it. I'm just not convinced that's the BEST bang for their buck but it could go either way

The best bang for a team's buck isn't determined by a position being the weakest on the team. If that were the case, Dorsey would have drafted a WR2 in the first two rounds by now.

One thing about the guard position is that I do really get tired of hearing the cliche (no disrespect intended BossChief) "he has the tools" going into the third year of a player's career.

I'd rather be hearing "he made an impact his rookie year and has shown exceptional growth in year two." That would be something, but it isn't the case.

All this means is that LDT remains a huge question mark at guard; his strength wasn't noticeably better in year two. I don't trust Fulton at guard because he has heavy feet, but he's a functional backup center. Jah Reid should be a backup guard at best given his play throughout his career, but he's really kind of too long for the position and struggles with footwork.

Call me less than elated, or whatever you want to term it. I think the guard position is a huge issue at this point. I would not be disappointed with an early pick at he position to solidify one of the two spots. Guys like Cody Whitehair, Josh Garnett, Isaac Seumalo, Joe Dahl, Connor McGovern, and Christian Westerman all look light years ahead in development at the position compared to what is currently on the roster.

I'm also a big believer in having really good guards in the NFL. I think you can get by with average tackles if you have good guards. Keeping immediate pressure off the quarterback and giving him an area in the pocket he can step up into and away from outside pressure is a huge key to throwing the football effectively.

I don't think you take a guard in round 1, but round 2 is certainly in play.

LDT is about on the developmental path you'd expect considering the situation though.

I'm pretty much with you on the guard spot.

Fisher whitehair morse LDT Schwartz

That's a good young ol that could be together a while

I thought Fulton played better Center than Guard. Perhaps moving Morse to LG and Fulton to C is the best option. Then Reid plays the versatility role with LDT at RG.

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 12196486)

I thought Fulton played better Center than Guard. Perhaps moving Morse to LG and Fulton to C is the best option. Then Reid plays the versatility role with LDT at RG.

I've been saying this since January but apparently, Reid disagrees.

Morse stays at center.

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12195982)

Does anybody here REALLY think Dorsey will draft a guard in the 1st round?

He's one of the most BPA-or-bust GMs in the league. Yes, it's impossible to go TRUE BPA, since I don't think there's a GM out there would would ever say, "Well, we've already drafted three RBs in the previous rounds, but this next RB is #1 on our board, so uhh... let's do it!" But we've seen him take positions groups with gaping holes (WR and OL in 2014) and blatantly ignore them until the 6th round or by drafting a speed RB to ideally play gadget WR.

Is Whitehair or Garnett the 28th best player in the draft? When the Chiefs pick at 28, is Whitehair or Garnett going to be the top guy on their board? Or are there better players at different positions?

We're so deep that we could end up drafting anything in the 1st. I'm going to go ahead and say that there is a pretty ****ing slim chance of us going interior line in the 1st round. Hell, I don't even think it's likely that he'll consider it in the 2nd round.

He's going to draft with contracts and player age in mind if he takes need into account at all. That's what all three of his first round picks have in common. That leads me to believe that DL is a pretty good bet.

2003 taught us a lot, like how a great OL can make an entire offense perform better.

And in this division, there's nothing wrong with that.

Gotta say that after some thought, many of you are swaying me on the guard thing... we DO have some depth in the interior but it isnt ideal, an injury to Morse or LDT makes a mess of things

The other side of that token though, is... what about an injury to Ford or Hali while Houstons out? It would almost certainly be more disastrous than an O line injury

Just wish we had that damn third rounder

My compromise is this

First two rounds = OLB/converted DE and Corner, in whatever order Dorsey has whats available on his board

Then spend that 4th on a guard and trust in Dorseys magical power to find a great fit, maybe some overlooked stud will fall that far