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'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2016 09:55 AM

I don't know which is worse, the Parsons deal or Mozgov getting 4/64 from the Lakers.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12297637)
Little Jimmy.

The only saving grace for the Mozgov deal (and really, there isn't one), is that at least it isn't a max deal so it's not tied to the cap. DeRozan's deal will go up with the cap, so will anybody else that gets a max contract (and I think there's a 'mini-max' that's also tied).

So Mozgov's deal, as frighteningly shitty as it is now, will get slightly less shitty next year when the cap goes up by about 20% and then slightly less shitty the year after that before it can be traded away as an expiring in year 4.

It's a bad bad BAD ****ing deal, but when the smoke clears, there will be worse given out over the next year or two.

It seems like the key is to the NBA is not to have an idiot son named Jimmy that inherits his fortune.

DJ's left nut 07-01-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12297731)
I don't know which is worse, the Parsons deal or Mozgov getting 4/64 from the Lakers.

If Parsons actually gets the max, it has to be Parsons given the escalator clauses in the contract.

At that point, the (presumably) Blazers don't even get an advantage of a long-term contract discount because it will go up with the cap.

Like I said, at least Mozgov's deal will get progressively less shitty. Parson's would actually get worse.

O.city 07-01-2016 10:15 AM

Lakers are essentially the Raiders from a few years ago, before they started drafting well. Can't get a good FA to come there, even with all that money.

They need Ingram to become a star.

DaKCMan AP 07-01-2016 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 12297568)
Whiteside staying in Miami.

PBJ

New World Order 07-01-2016 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12297731)
I don't know which is worse, the Parsons deal or Mozgov getting 4/64 from the Lakers.


Mozgov for sure.

He reminds me of Slava Medvedenko.

KevB 07-01-2016 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12297755)
If Parsons actually gets the max, it has to be Parsons given the escalator clauses in the contract.

At that point, the (presumably) Blazers don't even get an advantage of a long-term contract discount because it will go up with the cap.

Like I said, at least Mozgov's deal will get progressively less shitty. Parson's would actually get worse.

Grizz trying to woo Parsons as well, I assume matching the max. I suspect Conley said he'd only re-sign if they make another move to get better. Not sure Parsons is it, but he does fill a need and I'm not sure what else is out there. Regardless, Grizz aren't winning a ring with our without those 2 guys.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2016 11:10 AM

Noah getting 4/72 from the Knicks is worse than Mozgov's contract.

Again, don't have an idiot son named Jimmy take the reigns of an NBA franchise.

chiefzilla1501 07-01-2016 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12297852)
Noah getting 4/72 from the Knicks is worse than Mozgov's contract.

Again, don't have an idiot son named Jimmy take the reigns of an NBA franchise.

It depends on what version of Mozgov you get. The 2015-2016 version recovering from knee surgery looked really, really, really bad. Maybe he can recover his old form in which case he's an overpaid, but okay player.

saphojunkie 07-01-2016 12:50 PM

You guys need to stop looking at the $$ of these contracts, as it was always going to be inflated. These moves can only be judged based on whether or not the team gets better. The money means nothing right now.

DJ's left nut 07-01-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 12297970)
You guys need to stop looking at the $$ of these contracts, as it was always going to be inflated. These moves can only be judged based on whether or not the team gets better. The money means nothing right now.

Well the Lakers suck so even Mozgov makes them better.

That ain't saying much.

My problem with Mozgov isn't the $$, it's the term. He's 30 years old with a 'failed' knee surgery on his resume. He's going to get real bad, real fast. And there will be a new crop of FAs every year. That $16 million won't matter this year because there was nobody that was willing to take the Lakers money right now.

But next year? The year after? As Russell, Ingram, Randolph and Clarkson gel behind Walton (and I think all of them will show significant improvement over the next 2 years), the Lakers could become a nice place to look again.

But alas, we'll have $16 million tied up in this slug through 2020. That sucks any way you look at it.

I'd have rather brought Hibbert back on a 1-year deal and Hibbert is an absolute piece of shit. At least Hibbert would be off the books again next year and we could go again enter FA with a nice cap situation.

KevB 07-01-2016 01:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Free agent Chandler Parsons is nearing agreement on a four-year, $94M max deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, league sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/TheVertical">@TheVertical</a>.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/748958047704231937">July 1, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm sure that will quickly be followed by Conley announcing he'll re-sign with the Grizz. Good team, but not Championship caliber.

DJ's left nut 07-01-2016 02:42 PM

Some reports now that the Mozgov deal is actually 3/$48 with a team option. That's actually pretty palatable, then.

The Lakers don't have anyone up next year so it won't interfere with their 2017/18 salary structure and in the third year, you could always move that deal to a team as an expiring (with them declining the 4th year option).

And if the cap keeps going up 20%/yr, even the team option might be palatable.

Still not a good player, but the deal appears to not be quite the albatross it looked at at first glance, especially not with Parsons getting the max and rumors are that even Bazemore is looking at a deal at/near the max.

Bottom line is that NBA contracts are going to be ****ing nuts this year - period.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2016 02:54 PM

That Dellavedova contract...

dirk digler 07-01-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12298126)
That Dellavedova contract...

LMAO I was about to answer your question about the worst contract. Delly gets almost $10 million a year for being one of the shittest players I have ever seen.


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