My best thread ever. So far I've got 7 new customers !

Edit : make that 11

Also a note to my new customers. You will need to be patient as Frazod and Clay have most of #1725 booked up.

Yeah and sometimes when Smith throws the ball...heck, it can be a 5 yard pass and he will look like he's putting everything he has into it.... He looks like a shot-putter sometimes.

Cassel had a season where he threw 27 TDs and 7 INTs and there are plenty of other examples of crap QBs having good years.

You want to be considered a good QB in this league you have to be consistent and do it year-in and year-out and at least put up OK stats even if the line sucks. Alex has done that here. Foles has not shown the ability to be consistent so far in his career.

And has a touch on his pass ike Joe Montana? Wow... That's a crazy comparison. He's no where near as good as Joe Montana in pretty much any category so please don't compare him to Joe Cool.

Foles has a decent arm and can be pretty damn accurate at times. Lets leave it at that. He's not Joe Montana, never will be.

going to look back on this. I don't avoid responding, unless something is just preposterous.. so I must have missed yours.

also don't recall Rico asking me something that seemed like it was expecting a response.. will minimally look for that too.

This has happened before, I think, but I may have you confused with Staylor...I get you and Staylor mixed up sometimes. But definitely happened with you a couple few days ago.

And thanks for the minimal effort, Lizzie!

Less gay bar - more CP...:)

You mean like the big plays that Smith made vs Indy? Imagine if Bowe had actually tapped that second foot in bounds. One lazy inch mistake, and suddenly the entire portrait looks different, right?

There is so much that doesn't get discussed, and simply becomes generic vagueness when this main crux of discussion takes place. I think the reason is either people understandably don't recall all of the specific moments... or maybe they just don't want to take the time to dig (me, mostly).. or they don't want to face their own hypocrisy.

My overall point was meant to be concise.. and remains. It's unfair to demand that Alex carry a broken/flawed team when even the elite QBs barely can, if at all.

Proven, winning formula = Alex + healthy Mac/Houston (insert other key players) = SuperBowl.

Alex has been present, and accounted for in each contest, and still did well enough with what he had. Did they? obviously not.


Again, you are demanding that he do what guys like Rodgers isn't even doing. Is anyone else really doing what you are demanding of him?


Not brushed aside at all. There's a reason that these players are making FAR more money than the rest. They were expected to help their QB to a SB. I'm not blaming them on a personal level.. people can't help it if they get hurt.. but it still ***** the team right in the ass.


a little of the slack? no Maclin, Houston, a hobbling Hali.. anyone else I am missing?

Smith had about 300 yards (40'sh rush yds) TD, no picks.. 60% 3rd down conversions.. around 3 yds per carry for their feature back, West... no JC, no Ware.. throwing to Avant Wilson, and Conley as WRs.. in NE.

Yes. I think Alex did what he could do with that.

I think I have covered everything to the point where anything unanswered can easily be done so with conclusions from the above.

I close in repeating this much...

you are demanding that he do what guys like Rodgers isn't even doing. Is anyone else really doing what you are demanding of him?

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My overall point was meant to be concise.. and remains. It's unfair to demand that Alex carry a broken/flawed team when even the elite QBs barely can, if at all.

But the early Alex Smith is not playing this season. The current Alex Smith is. They play the game with the QB they have now. I believe Alex Smith can take us farther this year than Foles. We can worry about next year when we get there.

I don't care about numbers - I care about how effective a QB is.

If Foles balls out I'd expect a longer recovery time for Smith...

Singletary was a great player, but possibly the worst HC in the history of football. What does a linebacker know about QBs? Not a damn thing as it turned out.

I like both guys. Smith protects the ball better but is not a come from behind QB(a la playmaker when you need it.) Foles has a bigger arm with bigger NADS to thread the ball down field and actually make plays and can play from behind but does not protect the ball quite as good as Smith.

To win championships you need 'playmaking BIG NADS' !!!:D

I want to trade a ****ing QB for some tasty draft picks.


Don't care who we trade, i hope Smith and Foles just tear shit up and get us a draft pick.

Ok, bring Alex back please.

LMAO

Haha no. No, I do remember. I also don't think I am demanding. I am just stating that he likely will have to do those things. In fact, I even said it may not be fair, just necessary. If you have to put words in my mouth, so be it. He doesn't need to carry the team, just play better than he did in NE. Andy also needs to be a much better game manager in that game.

You can also keep referencing the times Rogers hasn't carried his team as evidence that QB's never do but that seems a little outrageous. I even cited a few QBs well bellow Rodgers level.

Do you think injuries are not going to happen in the playoffs? I guess you are saying you think Smith did enough against NE. I don't think he did. The IND game has always been something I have always referenced as encouraging, but the NE game still makes me wonder what he will do against the real good teams. It would be great if KC is healthy for a month of playoffs. Not gonna happen though. Players, especially the QB, are going to have to step up and play at a higher level.