where did everyone in this thread get 12 million number?

Oh, they made it up.

I also said approximately and gave the total if it's 12.5m.

It's all an educated guess

Unless you have something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion, why don't you shut the **** up and go back to humping your sister.

I'm betting is no where near 15m per year.

I don't think 15m is an educated anything.

What's the top safety getting?

You're saying he won't sign a 13 million contract.


Yeah on a one year deal that guarantees him 13.

A multi year deal is gonna guarantee at least twice that.

That's not saying at all what you are trying to imply it is. I'll let you figure it out yourself

12.5 m is coming from Tyrann Matheiu's average per year on his deal.

Not made up. Not educated guess.

It's still an educated guess about what Eric Berry will ask for. Unless you have personally talked to Berry's agent, it's an educated guess.

Since when do players ask for the same amount the last guy got? They don't, they ask for more.

Not only do players usually ask for more than the last guy got, they also ask for more each time the salary cap goes up. The more the cap goes up, the more the players try to push for higher contracts.

Next year has been rumored to have another big salary cap jump for teams, in the 8 figure range.

Apparently you read minds now, so just come out with it and tell me what I'm implying.

That since he won't play for 13m guaranteed he obviously wants 15m per year.

2016 Honey Badger: 5/62.5 35m guaranteed on a 155m cap (average per year is 8% of the teams overall salary cap)
2014 Earl Thomas: 4/40 on a 133m salary cap (average per year is 8% of the teams overall salary cap)

If the cap goes up to 170...care to guess what 8% of that is?

13.7m average per year.

It's also worth noting that Eric is a far more accomplished player than either of those guys.

Seems elite safety pay has increased proportionately with the salary cap increases to me.

Yep, I think $13 million a year is fair. Plus, give him the most guaranteed of any safety. Somewhere around $25 million guaranteed.

I'm torn on this. I don't think he's worth that much, much as I like Berry.

But let's be real... we have to stop the nonsense of trying to build up our offense and forcing Sutton to work with table scraps. Whether it's Alex or a rookie QB, we need to build this team around defense. Sign Berry and spend every last dime on building up the defense, even if it means overpaying.

The post above yours says the honey dipshit got 35 guaranteed.

Sutton has been given table scraps?

1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders on the DL
3 firsts and a third at LBer
A first and 2third rounders at CB
A first and third at safety

Not exactly table scraps, but I agree that even more investment t needs made on the defense to sustain and improve.

Two of those 1st round LBs are well past 30 and hobbled, ineffective or on IR frequently.

The DL has been a rag tag group of low round draft picks.

The secondary outside of Berry and Peters has been filled with scrap heap guys.

I think the secondary looks great for the next 2 years if Berry is extended.

DL needs at least 1 more guy for Howard leaving, maybe 2 if Poe leaves. Need an ILB and 1 more OLB for depth.

We really need to bulk up the front 7.