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CarlosCarson27 06-29-2020 04:29 PM

yeah... Chiefs is really offensive...? why in the hell would they even need to change it? based on what?

nothing.
Just another step in erasing native history. It doesnt have shit to do with it being offensive..which its not in the first place.

displacedinMN 06-29-2020 04:38 PM

The Kansas City Missourians.

So no one forgets the team is in Missouri. Sorry Kansans.

Shields68 06-29-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 15043728)
yeah... Chiefs is really offensive...? why in the hell would they even need to change it? based on what?

nothing.
Just another step in erasing native history. It doesnt have shit to do with it being offensive..which its not in the first place.

you can make the argument that "Redskins" is a offensive name and was a racial slur at one point. If the name Chiefs becomes offensive you might as well do away with mascot names and go with The Kansas City football team.

saturnknts 06-29-2020 04:40 PM

The Kansas City Tinmen
Motto: "We don't need a ****ing heart" or "We have more heart than you..."
After touchdowns could sing "We're gonna RIP the heart out of you, you, you you you"

The Kansas City Arrowheads
Surely this isn't offensive?

The Kansas City Missourians
"Dammit, we're in Missouri not Kansas"

The Kansas City Flying Monkeys
"They're always hanging around"

displacedinMN 06-29-2020 04:41 PM

Other than Ermines- The only other name I could get behind is Tornadoes or Twisters.

saturnknts 06-29-2020 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 15043746)
you can make the argument that "Redskins" is a offensive name and was a racial slur at one point. If the name Chiefs becomes offensive you might as well do away with mascot names and go with The Kansas City football team.

Kansas City Football Club - would drive soccer fans crazy. And I love soccer.

Jewish Rabbi 06-29-2020 04:50 PM

The Kansas City Eracists. Helping erase racism all over our country one skull****ed opponent at a time.

Pablo 06-29-2020 04:55 PM

Kansas City Indigenous Plains People

lcarus 06-29-2020 04:55 PM

I hope they never change the name but if they do I always thought the Kansas City Knights would be ok. Lots of cool logo potential. It's kind of arena football-ish. I'm sure there are better...and worse ideas out there.

CarlosCarson27 06-29-2020 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 15043746)
you can make the argument that "Redskins" is a offensive name and was a racial slur at one point. If the name Chiefs becomes offensive you might as well do away with mascot names and go with The Kansas City football team.

which there is no documented history of anywhere. Ive seen sports forums debate this stupid shit for 10 years. Its all invented for separation. like every other race bait argument.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...c62_story.html

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Aug. 22, 1812: At a Washington reception for several Native Americans, President James Madison refers to Indians as “red people” or “my red children,” prompting Little Osage Chief Sans Oreilles (No Ears) to voice his support for the administration: “I know the manners of the whites and the red skins.” Then, Sioux Chief French Crow also pledged loyalty: “I am a red-skin,but what I say is the truth, and notwithstanding I came a long way I am content, but wish to return from here.”
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I shall be pleased to have you come to speak to me yourself if you pity our women and our children; and, if any redskins do you harm, I shall be able to look out for you even at the peril of my life,” Chief Mosquito said in his letter, according to a 2005 study by Ives Goddard, the Smithsonian Institution’s senior linguist emeritus.
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July 20, 1815: After tangling with famed explorer-turned-Missouri Territory Gov. William Clark, Meskwaki Chief Black Thunder gives a speech that was printed in the Western Journal in St. Louis. “I turn to all,” the chief is reported as saying, “red skins and white skins, and challenge an accusation against me.”
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Sept. 25, 1863: The Winona Daily Republican in Minnesota features an announcement that uses the term “redskin” as a pejorative: “The State reward for dead Indians has been increased to $200 for every red-skin sent to Purgatory. This sum is more than the dead bodies of all the Indians east of the Red River are worth.”
its pretty much like getting upset at the term "reerun... you can turn any term negative if you want.

indians used the term on themselves.
go back to calling themselves the Braves, I wouldnt mind that. But a drastic change to please pc propaganda? **** that

CarlosCarson27 06-29-2020 05:01 PM

google-
Before the Indian Removal Act (1830) there were seven tribes in Missouri:

The Chickasaw tribe.
The Illini tribe.
The Ioway tribe.
The Otoe tribe.
The Missouria tribe.
The Osage tribe.
The Quapaw tribe.
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i will only accept a change to one of these names

Chief Pagan 06-29-2020 05:08 PM

Kansas City Becuase Chufs

CarlosCarson27 06-29-2020 05:16 PM

http://www.ala.org/aboutala/indigeno...-washington-dc


On the Washington Football Team’s website, the organization stood by its usage of the name and mascot stating, “the image of ‘Chief Two Guns White Calf’ was most admired [and that is how the logo officially became the brand we know today]. The likeness is not of a mascot, but rather a logo based after a real person out of respect for the Native American.” Conversations about the use of American Indian imagery or culture continues to be debated today. There are professional teams, college teams, and schools that are implementing rules to abolish these mascots.

scho63 06-29-2020 05:20 PM

Chiefs is not racist.

Scalpers or Drunken Injuns or Redskins is......

redfan 06-29-2020 05:26 PM

The Kansas City Rainmen, bringin' the thunder


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