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staylor26 02-08-2021 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 15539375)
Jameis Winston was probably watching the game and wondering where all these refs were last season.

Absolutely.

“If all I had to do n 3rd down was overthrow my WR where nobody else can get it and wait for the flag I wouldn’t have thrown 30 INT’s!”

Bugeater 02-08-2021 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15538745)
To be fair we should care less, it's a show.

Yep. It's not worth an emotional investment.

KC_Connection 02-08-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15539235)
It’s all a coincidence.

Just like the Bucs being the beneficiaries of the most PI yards in 12+ years.

Just like the Bucs getting a beneficial PI call to help win the NFCCG game when they were letting the Bucs corners mug GB’s receivers all game.

It’s all a coincidence.

Going into the game, Brady had the most DPI calls (23) in a single season in the history of the NFL this year. Also a coincidence I'm sure.

dlphg9 02-08-2021 07:04 PM

Here's some more "interesting" stats

So Tom Brady has had 10 SB games and in those 10 games his teams have been penalized

47 times for 324 yds and has been given 26 1st downs from penalty yards.

His opponents have been penalized 71 times for a total of 562 yards and have 15 1st downs from penalty yards.

Now let's look at games since 2001 in which Tom Brady wasn't present and see how penalties were called.

11 games

135 penalties, 1125 yards, 29 1st downs from Penalties

That averages out to 6.1 penalties, 51 yards, 1.3 1st downs off penalties per team

Opponents of the Tom in the SB average 7.1 penalties, 56 yards, and 1.5 1st downs from penalties

Tom Bradys team averages in the SB are 4.7 penalties, 32.4 yards, 2.6 1st downs from penalties.

The 1st downs from penalties is the most bullshit of all. Since 2001 there has only been 4 teams that have gotten 4 or more 1st downs from penalties. Tom Bradys teams have been the recipients of 3 of those 4. There has been 12 instances in which teams were awarded 3 or more first downs from Penalties. Tom Brady's teams got 5 out of the 12.

50% of the time Tom has been helped by more than 3 penalties for 1st downs. Only 20% of Tom's opponents have benefitted from that same stat. In 11 other SBs between 22 teams only 23% of teams benefitted from the same thing.

Tom's a God damn fraud. I wish someone in the media would bring up the bias that the refs show Tom.

crayzkirk 02-08-2021 07:53 PM

Well, at least I won't be buying any SB Merchandise this year...

Can't we just blame Trump? I mean, isn't he the cause of everything bad now?

dlphg9 02-08-2021 08:59 PM

I hate the NFL and Tom Brady. Fake legacy cheating scum.

ShortRoundChief 02-08-2021 09:01 PM

There were calls that were made that I didn't agree with and calls that I did agree with. I defer to my "Remember the Titans" speech. We did not/could not do that to them.

We came in 2nd instead of 1st. It hurts but it beats the shit out of 16th every year.

Megatron96 02-08-2021 09:25 PM

I watched every playoff game this season and last. The refs allowed both teams to play "playoff-style" defense in every game, but this one. We also watched the refs put their heads together on nearly every questionable call throughout the regular season and playoffs and mostly they got the calls right, but not in the SB.

In LV, flags were thrown, at least twice were egregiously bad calls, and there was no discussion, barely a replay, and even the commentators were curiously silent. Did they even try to get the TV ref to explain any of them? I don't recall that either, and during the regular season they were quick to have Steratore or whoever explain what we were seeing.

I don't believe in conspiracy theories, especially as it concerns the NFL, but it was very curious that the refs chose those plays, in those moments to suddenly decide it was week 1, instead of the Super Bowl.

Bearcat 02-08-2021 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15539807)

I don't believe in conspiracy theories, especially as it concerns the NFL, but it was very curious that the refs chose those plays, in those moments to suddenly decide it was week 1, instead of the Super Bowl.

I never did before last night, even though if they wanted TB to win, they certainly didn't have to make it that ****ing obvious. It was almost like Brady himself was mocking the entire thing, knowing he'd get the calls, because the NFL itself didn't need to hand the Patriots 5 first downs on such obvious bullshit calls to steer that game.

But one thing that's always been curious is there's seemingly never anything to fix. It's not like the NFL has to publicly fine refs or whatever.... but, like with the Rams/Saints crew that went on to officiate the SB that year, it's just a terrible look.

And shit like last night should be fire-able, really.

On top of that, I'd love to see leagues in general simply have a 'ref' in the booth who can quickly make things right.... I've always hated the whole "not reviewable" thing, either because it wasn't specifically a reviewable thing (example, a puck bounced off the net once and landed on the back of Jonathan Quick and went in the net, and they called it a goal because it wasn't reviewable at the time) or because it's subjective by nature.

And on top of on top of that, you have refs on the field using freakin' iPads in tents and bullshit when people at home have watched 10 replays with 6 angles before they even get that shit setup.

Just put someone in the ****ing booth to call down and say, hey dildos, there's obviously nothing there. Doesn't have to be every single play broken down into slow-mo with 10 different cameras... just the most obvious stuff in real time.

Showing zero desire to fix that crap just gives them an even worse look in the whole thing.

Megatron96 02-08-2021 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15539841)
I never did before last night, even though if they wanted TB to win, they certainly didn't have to make it that ****ing obvious. It was almost like Brady himself was mocking the entire thing, knowing he'd get the calls, because the NFL itself didn't need to hand the Patriots 5 first downs on such obvious bullshit calls to steer that game.

But one thing that's always been curious is there's seemingly never anything to fix. It's not like the NFL has to publicly fine refs or whatever.... but, like with the Rams/Saints crew that went on to officiate the SB that year, it's just a terrible look.

And shit like last night should be fire-able, really.

Seriously. It wasn't like TB needed that much help. Our OL was obviously completely outmatched on the edges, which was my only fear going into the game. And unfortunately I was completely right. Remmers and Wylie didn't hold up at all; they were going backwards so fast on many of those snaps you'd have thought they were wearing roller skates. They were so overmatched I doubt that we would've found a way to win even if the refs hadn't decided to treat the game as a preseason live practice. But when they not only took away our DBs ability to play their brand of defense at all, and curiously didn't throw any flags at their DBs/LBs, they effectively eliminated any chance for KC to even make a game of it.

And I just have to question why it was necessary at all. Why change the way they officiated this game? They could've just pulled that shit when we played CLE or BUF.

Just doesn't make any sense.

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dlphg9 02-09-2021 01:39 AM

God damn Penbrook. Get that dumb shit out of my thread. You worthless bag of shit.

UK_Chief 02-09-2021 03:43 AM

Watching the presser, it’s pretty obvious Andy blames the refs. Pat looked broken in his, hope the guy shakes it off, seems like he’s blaming himself

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-09-2021 06:54 AM

Todd Bowles said their goal was to take away PMII's first read as the pressure could get to him. In rewatching the game last night, our receivers were being held/illegal contact all night. Yes, are Oline was atrocious, but them only calling it close on one side made it damn near impossible. That's what folks are not getting...


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