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scho63 12-24-2021 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16018257)
The only one I didn't agree with was going for it from 5 yards out.

I was hoping they were going to pooch punt. Nobody would be expecting that! :D

RunKC 12-24-2021 10:04 AM

He’s a new young coach but his defensive knowledge is really good.

The Chargers are by far the biggest threat to us. They have consistently given us a tough out in every game since they’ve had Herbert.

I’m not really fearful of any team but if there was one team I wouldn’t want to face next month it’s the Chargers.

Chiefaholic 12-24-2021 10:54 AM

As a Chief fan, I appreciate Brandon taking points off the board with chip shot field goals. Had he taken the almost guaranteed points, we wouldn't be in first place in the conference. And winning the division wouldn't be a favorable as well.

As long as he continues to be the village idiot of the AFC West, I'm his biggest fan....

Edit.... Sorry if the Facebook Fact Checking crowd was offended. No need for YOU to "edit" my words. And to save you the hassel, I'll just remove myself to allow the "woke" folks the opportunity to think for others.

Chiefspants 12-24-2021 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16031564)
He’s a new young coach but his defensive knowledge is really good.

The Chargers are by far the biggest threat to us. They have consistently given us a tough out in every game since they’ve had Herbert.

I’m not really fearful of any team but if there was one team I wouldn’t want to face next month it’s the Chargers.

I think they’ll be a pain in the ass and are proving to be a tough out, but with Mahomes and the current team I don’t think there’s any team I’ll regard with the dread I did Elway or Manning’s Broncos whenever they appeared on the schedule.

htismaqe 12-24-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16031491)
The models absolutely take into account game situations.

Sure, they take into account tangible things like time left, down, and distance.

What the analytics can't capture is intangibles like momentum, fatigue, and player morale.

They're valuable for sure but kind of like playing a musical instrument, no amount of technique can make up for a lack of feel.

Sorce 12-24-2021 11:02 AM

He took one point off the board. You can't give him the touchdowns from successful conversions, then magically predict he kick field goals. He got 14 pts off of successful conversions, if he took and made field goals he would have 15. His strategy wasn't bad, they just didn't execute.

DaFace 12-24-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16031644)
Sure, they take into account tangible things like time left, down, and distance.

What the analytics can't capture is intangibles like momentum, fatigue, and player morale.

They're valuable for sure but kind of like playing a musical instrument, no amount of technique can make up for a lack of feel.

Sure. My point was just that time and score are central to the models, which he suggested weren't part of the equation.

Wallcrawler 12-24-2021 11:10 AM

All or nothing is a bad way to coach football games.

Like there's no way you can justify that kind of dumb shit especially on your first drive, or with so much game left to play.

Staley and Harbaugh are two of these all or nothing dudes.

Staley wasted the effort given on a massive kickoff return to start the game, which was immediately 3 free points. He just thumbed his nose at the kicker and gave the football away.

That's worse than something like a fumble or interception negating that great play. When you choose to say, I'm good with nothing if this play doesn't work, that's so much worse than just a regular turnover. You CHOSE to not get points.

Same with Ravens opening drive. Great drive. Drove the entire field, ate up half the first quarter, and chose to be good with the possibility of getting nothing. You just can't have that after that effort.

That's just dumbass football right there. As long as who has the most points determines who wins games, choosing not to take points when they're practically a guarantee, will always be the wrong move.

Your d gets a turnover off Mahomes, and instead of cashing in for 3 for your d, you roll the dice and lose. What a slap across the face to the d.

If you're looking at a punt or go for it, hey knock yourself out if you trust your defense. But to simply refuse to put points on the board, that's going to always be tough to explain both to ownership, and some of your players.

Especially if you lose a close contest.

Bearcat 12-24-2021 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16031644)
Sure, they take into account tangible things like time left, down, and distance.

What the analytics can't capture is intangibles like momentum, fatigue, and player morale.

They're valuable for sure but kind of like playing a musical instrument, no amount of technique can make up for a lack of feel.

That's why I think the 4th down at the end of the half was the worst of the calls by far (and Kollmann ended up saying the same).... by then, you're reading the situation that the Chiefs offense hasn't been great, you've already failed on 4th down a couple times and can go up by 7 to end the half.

Reroka 12-24-2021 11:12 AM

Hey, it's his team and he runs it the way he wants. He gambled and it did not pay off. The next time it might. If he would have kicked field goals He would have won that game.

MarkDavis'Haircut 12-24-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16031644)
Sure, they take into account tangible things like time left, down, and distance.

What the analytics can't capture is intangibles like momentum, fatigue, and player morale.

They're valuable for sure but kind of like playing a musical instrument, no amount of technique can make up for a lack of feel.

That is my take on it. I am big into analytics but the analytics guys are starting to commit the same sins that they accuse the old fashioned coaches of doing. Aka all or nothing.

The best system is accounting for analytics and gut instinct.

Chris Meck 12-24-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16031644)
Sure, they take into account tangible things like time left, down, and distance.

What the analytics can't capture is intangibles like momentum, fatigue, and player morale.

They're valuable for sure but kind of like playing a musical instrument, no amount of technique can make up for a lack of feel.

well, that's just a perfectly apt simile. Bravo!

BigCatDaddy 12-24-2021 12:42 PM

I can't imagine any analytic says go for it on 4th and goal from the 5.

Coochie liquor 12-24-2021 08:00 PM

Staley is the Deberg of coaches!!

Jewish Rabbi 12-24-2021 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16031467)
We should cheer him on. Let's go Brandon!

Reported, btw.


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