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Rotating QB and you lined up on the other guy. Man, if you got defended you SUCKED. Because it's freakin' 1 on 1 and you know where you're going while the other guy's just trying to react. 1v1s mean very very little, especially if it's the WR winning. Now if the DB is locking a guy up, that's impressive as hell. But the drill is set up where the WR SHOULD win the rep and damn near every time. |
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You're comparing him to McCluster and Todd what's his ****. Like that's just...insane. Not even remotely the same kind of athlete. Not even close. He's a rare raw animal. Sky really is the limit. of course, he also might suck. we can debate whether the risk is worth it, but I'm saying at #50 that's worth it to me. That's all. meanwhile, you want to take a run stuffing DT in the first round that projects as a decent nose tackle. So whatever. |
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You want to cite Christian Watson's athleticism at the combine then ignore the fact that Jones out-tests Leonard Williams literally across the board? Bigger, stronger, faster, quicker, more fluid. I mean the board will dictate a lot of things. But even in an absolute worst case scenario circumstance, I wouldn't be taking Watson. He's nowhere close to my top 30 prospects. As I said previously he's maybe around my top 50 and even that is pushing it. Jones is at that threshold level. It's close. |
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And I'd STILL take a Watson/Pierce/Moore/Pickens/Tolbert someone else in round 2 or 3. |
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Nose tackle with size and power that fuels his rumbling playing style. Jones lacks explosive get-off and hand twitch. He's unlikely to be a quick-win defender, but the anchor and upper-body power are present for gap-control duties once he gets his footwork and hand usage schooled up. He was a standout on a bad defense and more than held his own against the toughest competition he faced. Jones has the demeanor, traits and overall ability to become a successful run-plugger and potential starter in a two-gapping scheme. That's not very exciting for a first rounder. |
All I know at this point is that the draft can't get here soon enough. I'm about burnt out on discussing it. :D
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He plays hard and fast but needs to add a few more pounds and learn to impose his frame on the coverage. He's a field-stretching option requiring a linear route tree and projects as a capable WR3/4 with more work. |
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He was widely regarded as having been the best receiver at the draft, and reports from people on the ground had him handling all types of coverage well. That roster included a lot of other WRs we have talked about... Alec Pierce (who reportedly struggled with initial separation), Calvin Austin, Velus Jones, Tre Turner, noticeably. That separates him a little, for me, from the guys in that tier. |
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Would you question Poe's get-off? I've always thought broad jump was an excellent indicator of lower body explosion. Remember how we fawned over Poe's? Jones was 5 inches BETTER. I'll acknowledge that Watson is a hell of an athlete - the numbers clearly support it. The numbers also clearly support that Jones is a well above average athlete, bordering on a great one, for a DT. |
I get not liking Watson's tape but how many guys that have come out in the last few years have had one of the highest RAS scores in 2 decades?
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So we're going to ignore Watson's scouting report and stand on his combine tests. And ignore Jones combine tests while standing on his scouting report? Feels like you're REALLY picking your spots here... |
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If we want to start talking about ceilings, lets at least be reasonable and talk about a dude like Walker. But Walker at least produced out of FSU with very similar measurables to Watson. |
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