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BlackOp 03-28-2022 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 16218844)
The roster clearly isn't as strong as it has been in recent years, at least prior to the draft.

However, looking at the roster situation of other AFCW teams they are likely going to follow a similar path in a year or two. Overthecap currently has the Chargers at $8.6 million in 2023 cap space prior to the draft. That number doesn't include Derwin James and Justin Herbert will be extension eligible after this year. Tillery, Adderly, and Tranquill are other starters that are UFA. They're going to be in a cap crunch in short order, they only have 29 players under contract for 2023 and little cap room.

Denver has around $16 million, but it's also a given that Russell Wilson will need to be signed to a huge extension as 2023 is the last year of his contract and he's only set to make $27 million. Bradley Chubb is also a free agent.

LV might seemingly be in the best cap situation, but they also only have 21 players under contract for next year and Carr is a free agent. Good luck paying that sack of shit $40+ million a year as his market will command. Waller probably also needs a new contract, and overall their roster still isn't that great even with Carr, Adams, and Waller. We've also seen that WR can fall off fast after 30, so good luck in LA and LV with both Adams and Allen set to turn 30 this year.

This is good post...dont forget both Vegas and Denver have entirely new coaching staffs.

I would never do what the Raiders did...pay a record premium for an older WR from a team with a perennial MVP QB. Mahomes got Albert Wilson payed...haven't heard his name since.

How good will Adams be with Carr? He has to be the very best/completely dominate (Randy Moss) to justify what he cost...I think he'll be good but the return on that deal has about a 2% chance of being justified. Raiders arent competing for a SB anytime soon...dumb move from every angle. Carr might be kicked to the curb after this season...McDaniel inherited him and his contract is up.

Are they really going to throw $40+ million at a guy who has never won a play-off game?

Chiefs are ahead of the curve...they have two drafts this year and the best QB in the NFL under contract.

rabblerouser 03-28-2022 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16217998)
Do you think 129 yards in 5 games is good or something?

He was injured and had Broke Dick Ben Rapenbooger and his popgun arm, it's amazing he had that much production.

If you had any capacity for abstract thought you'd be able to grasp the concept of context.

But you don't.

rabblerouser 03-28-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 16220591)
This is good post...dont forget both Vegas and Denver have entirely new coaching staffs.

I would never do what the Raiders did...pay a record premium for an older WR from a team with a perennial MVP QB. Mahomes got Albert Wilson payed...haven't heard his name since.

Interested in how DRob and Pringle pan out in their new homes as well.

Carr isn't near the caliber QB Mahomes and Rogers are.

Rausch 03-28-2022 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoneix (Post 16217923)
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Rausch 03-28-2022 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16217943)

I wonder how many GM's said it was stupid to sign a $9 safety before locking up your best player.

You give Hill an extra $6mil, you draft a S, and don't lose your best player on offense...

TomBarndtsTwin 03-28-2022 04:08 PM

Obviously, we will miss Tyreek this year on offense, but I like the overall construction of our roster right now. Have room to play and possibility of an elite draft haul.

The other 3 teams may have a little window against us for the next 2 years (and they better take advantage while they have the chance), but if Veach and our scouts hit right and put together a couple good drafts between this year and next, we're gonna go on another 5-6 year run of dominating this division.

Will be a thing of beauty.

Time to get work done, Burt and Co.!!

TwistedChief 03-28-2022 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16220868)
I wonder how many GM's said it was stupid to sign a $9 safety before locking up your best player.

You give Hill an extra $6mil, you draft a S, and don't lose your best player on offense...

LOL. Yup, that’s the decision that was made. It was Reid or Hill.

Rausch 03-28-2022 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16220932)
LOL. Yup, that’s the decision that was made. It was Reid or Hill.

The Chiefs acted like they were surprised Hill wanted to be paid. Come on. They're not that stupid. Of course he wanted to get that big contract.

The truth is a bad Frank Clark contract locked up some cap. Pat could have converted like $16 million to give us space. They knew they were doing this. This wasn't a surprise they just want us to think it was...

rabblerouser 03-28-2022 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16220932)
LOL. Yup, that’s the decision that was made. It was Reid or Hill.

Did anyone besides us read that Peter King article at all?

TwistedChief 03-28-2022 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16220934)
Did anyone besides us read that Peter King article at all?

Rausch kant reid.

staylor26 03-28-2022 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16219774)
Would you rather have MVS and Frank Clark for $19mil next year or Hill for $23?

As if this post wasn’t dumb I enough already, the details of MVS contract make it even worse.

I used to just give you a lot of shit because you are a contrarian.

Now you’re just ****ing dumb.

Chris Meck 03-28-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16220933)
The Chiefs acted like they were surprised Hill wanted to be paid. Come on. They're not that stupid. Of course he wanted to get that big contract.

The truth is a bad Frank Clark contract locked up some cap. Pat could have converted like $16 million to give us space. They knew they were doing this. This wasn't a surprise they just want us to think it was...

No, I think you've got it all wrong here.

Of course Hill wanted to be paid, he just went higher than The Chiefs felt it was prudent to go.

Clark's contract is an issue, but it's sunk cost, and it helped get us a SB win, so whatever. It was almost as cheap to keep him now as to cut him, so who cares?

The Chiefs aren't blowing any smoke up anyone's asses; they offered Hill a boatload, just not a big enough boatload.

Converting Pat's deal forward is more of the old way. This is the New Way. The Old Way was Pat on a rookie deal, get the pieces you need at whatever cost and go win a SB. The New Way is-Pat's getting paid, be prudent with free agency, trade high when you can and stockpile picks to fill your roster with young, cost controlled talent.

You're going to have to get used to it. This is how you stay a contender for decades. You don't do it making anyone other than Mahomes that huge chunk of your cap.

Veach did the prudent, smart, ballsy move. He set a line and when that wasn't enough for Hill, he moved him for a king's ransom. The team overall is in much healthier shape now moving forward.

We 'MIGHT' have a slight downyear, although I'm not conceding that at all. The next 5 years, however, should have a re-loaded Chiefs kicking the crap out of everyone else in the AFC that'll be entering cap hell because they were desperately trying to match us.

I think it's brilliant. It's a big swing of a bet on our scouting, coaching, and front office-but it's the only way to really build a dynasty with the salary cap. It's what The Patriots did. This is The Way.

TwistedChief 03-28-2022 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16221027)
No, I think you've got it all wrong here.

I think it's brilliant. It's a big swing of a bet on our scouting, coaching, and front office-but it's the only way to really build a dynasty with the salary cap. It's what The Patriots did. This is The Way.

A lot of words here, but wouldn't you rather have Hill than Clark and MVS?!

-King- 03-28-2022 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16220850)
He was injured and had Broke Dick Ben Rapenbooger and his popgun arm, it's amazing he had that much production.

If you had any capacity for abstract thought you'd be able to grasp the concept of context.

But you don't.

So were the other receivers in Pittsburgh. They all played with the same shit qb. Had different results though...

staylor26 03-28-2022 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16221296)
So were the other receivers in Pittsburgh. They all played with the same shit qb. Had different results though...

Did you expect the corpse of Big Ben to be good enough to support 3 WRs putting up big #s?

The fact that you choose to focus on a 5 game sample size as opposed to 2020 says everything about your miserable existence.


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