Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16490273)

Well, if you want a legit playmaker at WR that doesn't need other guys around him to help....probably gonna have to trade up in the first for that. Jamar Chase isn't usually available at 30.

Or don't trade the one you had and pay him what it takes.

Me on the other hand thinks maybe we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater and see what happens as we go here.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16490257)

If Mahomes needs all the weapons and the OL and the defense.....well, maybe he doesn't need half a billion dollar contract?

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16490267)

Alright, here's kinda where the issue lies..the Chiefs drafting ability isn't bad, they've pulled numerous starters out of lower rounds etc etc.

The problem is some of the investment can lead to issues. The best linemen on the team are a LG and C, zero issue with a 2nd round center, Thuney makes a lot of money for a guard but eh, it's offset by the Trey Smith find. The issue lies in that in a pass heavy scheme your OT's are extremely important and we have a LT that can't handle speed rushers and a RT that is basically best suited as your 6th lineman.

The Chiefs are trying to rebuild and win at the same time, whiffing on CEH and Hardman is what is really killing them right now. Odd to say this but since Veach took over they've done most things well other than find playmakers..

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16490270)

He has an OL that isn't great at pass blocking, a shitty run game and Travis Kelce. With a defense that is probably 10-15...

That's a recipe for your HOF QB to lose in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16490275)

:facepalm:

And so it begins...

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16490276)

Pretty much. If Clyde and Hardman were even decent players then we aren’t having this conversation.

Those 2 misses hurt us badly

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16490278)

Yeah, there's a real island of misfit toys vibe with some of our roster construction.

A physical WR as your #1 guy with a QB who just doesn't need (or really want) that kind of player. An OL built around interior run blocking and a running game that seems committed to OZ looks (w/ RBs who aren't physically equipped for the job).

A really expensive G while cutting corners at WR.

The one area I'd say is complementary is a strong interior pass rush w/ relatively low-cost CBs. That's a nice mesh. But the rest of it seems like a series of mis-matched parts and we see it on days where things just aren't clicking.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16490278)

Yeah, there's a real island of misfit toys vibe with some of our roster construction.

A physical WR as your #1 guy with a QB who just doesn't need (or really want) that kind of player. An OL built around interior run blocking and a running game that seems committed to OZ looks (w/ RBs who aren't physically equipped for the job).

A really expensive G while cutting corners at WR.

The one area I'd say is complementary is a strong interior pass rush w/ relatively low-cost CBs. That's a nice mesh. But the rest of it seems like a series of mis-matched parts and we see it on days where things just aren't clicking.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16490290)

Is the Hardman hate from yesterday? He had 1 target.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16490171)

No he didn't. And he's not exactly this crazy shifty game breaker either. And yeah, he has looked hesitant this entire time fielding kicks. You can tell he's not a natural at it.

And all it took was one **** up for him to go completely shell shocked on the next attempt.

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 16490296)

If he develops as hoped, what’s the ceiling for Skyy Moore? Is he a #1 type receiver talent? If not KC is in a real conundrum, because they need to go out and draft a left tackle and a #1 WR. And considering Reid won’t play a draft pick much you’re likely drafting that receiver with 2024 in mind. Not sure the 2023 receiver group will be any better than this year unless Sky Moore is able to hit the ground running and becomes a go to target for Mahomes.