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Megatron96 01-10-2023 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16725231)
The increased use of stats in analysis has been really interesting if only because of how teams counter it.

'Tendency breakers' are more than just something of an interesting turn of phrase. I mean sometimes they're used to run against type and actually produce. But oftentimes it truly is something that coaches call just to **** with the spreadsheets.

If anyone's doing that right now, I don't think it's Andy - I think it's Spags.

Think of how much less often we've been blitzing, especially on 3rd downs. And why? I think Spags is trying to drive down those blitz rates. Sure, just keep making your spreadsheet more involved and you can pare out more and more white noise, but the more involved the numbers are, the more prone guys get to paralysis by analysis.

I think there are coaches - and we have a few of them - who calls plays ESPECIALLY to screw with trends that analytics departments are trying to use to establish an edge. You run those things out there to dick up the ratios and the pocket protector brigade doesn't really recognize it, IMO. Next thing you know they're feeding the DC raw numbers of what someone does in a similar situation and those numbers are flawed because the coaching staff actively dicked with them during the regular season.

Don't know how I missed this the first time through. Really interesting stuff. Never thought about it from a stats/probability perspective. Makes a lot of sense though.

From what I remember of the show, those guys thought that Andy was throwing a big eye candy play at the defense, to mess with the teams KC will play in the playoffs.

Basically, "here, I've run a couple plays in the past from this formation (kind of), with a TE, a WR, and an RB in the backfield, with Mahomes as the tailback or whatever, before, but now I'm going to show you something you've never seen before, deal with that!" Because now those DCs in the playoffs are going to have to try and figure out how to counter not only that play, but whatever else Andy might dream up from that formation/position group.

And it worked to perfection, the phantom holding call notwithstanding. When you watch the NextGen Stats animation of the play, the defense is standing there flat-footed at the snap; the safeties and the LBs in particular have no idea what's coming. Even after the snap at least one of the safeties doesn't move for several seconds. And most of the defense just looks confused.

Anyway, the RGR guys tracked all the plays, and said that we saw more 'new' plays in that game than we had in a long time. They weren't as flashy as the snowglobe play, mostly they were plays from formations Andy uses a lot, but completely different motion, routes, or whatever. Apparently, there's permutations Andy's come up with that, as a fan watching on TV, we don't really see but that the players on defense do see, that constitute the eye candy. Kind of showing you his 'tell,' then doing something unexpected from it.

dlphg9 01-10-2023 03:34 PM

I'd love to see them run thay spinny huddle play on an important play, but spins the other way.

Red Dawg 01-10-2023 04:13 PM

What about Fortson? Is he going play or is he done?

Megatron96 01-10-2023 04:26 PM

So, I made a mistake. A couple three, actually. Shocking, I know.:thumb:

I reread my posts concerning MVS and realized that I misunderstood DJ's posts about MVS and his role in the offense, which make my posts about MVS kind of nonsensical. That's on me to have better comprehension, so I'm retracting my posts about MVS here.

And it's completely out of character for me. I've always been the protector of lost toys; I'm a homer. Maybe the homer, depending on who you ask around here. Bagging on a player that wears the red and gold in not who I am. Don't know really how I got here. I mean, hell, I defended Ben Neimann a couple years ago, for like 5 straight weeks. My handle on other sites is "DD49," for petesakes.

Anyway, my bad for the unwarranted snark and the bad takes. Going back to my normal role of defending lost causes on my favorite football team, the Chiefs.

End of public announcement.

BWillie 01-10-2023 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16725514)
Wow. Guys I don’t think Hardman is coming back…

If Im Hardman I dont even know if I play. He's gonna get paid by somebody and he has a good excuse as to why he isn't playing. Just say the spirit isn't with him. As a Chiefs fan I hate it, but good business decision.


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