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RunKC 01-11-2023 03:42 PM

I don’t see a problem with Juju getting $15-18 million on a 3 year deal. It benefits both parties.

Year 1-low cap hit
Year 2-medium high cap hit
Year 3-high cap hit/can cut and save money

Chris Jones and Orlando Brown Jr extensions push immediate cap hit money out. The problem is wanting to trade for Brian Burns and blow $30 million a year on him.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2023 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16728865)
I'm guessing they tear up his deal and do a new one in 3 or 4 years, right? YOu pretty much have to.

One thing they could probably do is appeal to his competitive nature.

It's not easy to ask a competitive person to give you some of his money to go sign players. But it's pretty easy to prevent that same competitive person from asking you for MORE money if it prevents you from signing players.

In that sense, just having numbers in black ink should work to the Chiefs advantage.

But they have to sate Mahomes in the process. They could give him a raise, yeah. But I think he'd probably be just as content if they tell him "Yeah Pat - we hear you, but we can finish DE1s deal at X dollars and WR2s deal at Y dollars and we kinda need Z dollars to make that happen..."

And because he's a psychopath, the former's probably just as good as the latter to him.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2023 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16728868)
Watson only has the 3rd most snaps, because Hardman's been out, JJSS missed some time, and Toney got injured. Watson had 108 snaps through the first 8 games of the season. That's 14 snaps a game. Hardman got hurt and for some reason Watson started playing a ton and still did jack shit.

"Best sneaky acquisition" lmao, stfu.

Yeah, the number of snaps he gets is a knock on a wr room not a compliment to his value. That being said I love the guy on the bottom of the rotation for cheap.

O.city 01-11-2023 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16728875)
I don’t see a problem with Juju getting $15-18 million on a 3 year deal. It benefits both parties.

Year 1-low cap hit
Year 2-medium high cap hit
Year 3-high cap hit/can cut and save money

Chris Jones and Orlando Brown Jr extensions push immediate cap hit money out. The problem is wanting to trade for Brian Burns and blow $30 million a year on him.

There are very few people who can do what Brian Burns can do.

There are alot who can do what JJSS can do at a fraction of that cost. But carry on.

Skyy God 01-11-2023 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16728868)
Watson only has the 3rd most snaps, because Hardman's been out, JJSS missed some time, and Toney got injured. Watson had 108 snaps through the first 8 games of the season. That's 14 snaps a game. Hardman got hurt and for some reason Watson started playing a ton and still did jack shit.

"Best sneaky acquisition" lmao, stfu.

For a WR5, vet minimum guy, he’s been a killer FA acquisition.

21 YPC is nothing to sneeze at.

Skyy God 01-11-2023 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16728880)
One thing they could probably do is appeal to his competitive nature.

It's not easy to ask a competitive person to give you some of his money to go sign players. But it's pretty easy to prevent that same competitive person from asking you for MORE money if it prevents you from signing players.

In that sense, just having numbers in black ink should work to the Chiefs advantage.

But they have to sate Mahomes in the process. They could give him a raise, yeah. But I think he'd probably be just as content if they tell him "Yeah Pat - we hear you, but we can finish DE1s deal at X dollars and WR2s deal at Y dollars and we kinda need Z dollars to make that happen..."

And because he's a psychopath, the former's probably just as good as the latter to him.

Chris Jones’ dad told me before the Titans AFCCG that Mahomes would take less than fair market value so the Chiefs could retain him. Dude asked whether I was a reporter, lol.

No reason to think he doesn’t continue to do so. Pat gonna be the first NFL billionaire.

raybec 4 01-11-2023 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16728897)
Chris Jones’ dad told me before the Titans AFCCG that Mahomes would take less than fair market value so the Chiefs could retain him. Dude asked whether I was a reporter, lol.

No reason to think he doesn’t continue to do so. Pat gonna be the first NFL billionaire.

C'mon man.....that didn't ****ing happen.

Pablo 01-11-2023 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16728902)
C'mon man.....that didn't ****ing happen.

I don’t Belize it either

RunKC 01-11-2023 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16728888)
There are very few people who can do what Brian Burns can do.

There are alot who can do what JJSS can do at a fraction of that cost. But carry on.

We’ve tried to find that guy for awhile but haven’t. Jehu Chesson, Demarcus Robinson, Byron Pringle, Cornell Powell. And now apparently Skyy Moore.

People can point to that, but the data does not prove it right.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2023 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16728897)
Chris Jones’ dad told me before the Titans AFCCG that Mahomes would take less than fair market value so the Chiefs could retain him. Dude asked whether I was a reporter, lol.

No reason to think he doesn’t continue to do so. Pat gonna be the first NFL billionaire.

First, nobody should expect pat to do this. And good chance it’s wishful thinking. But man that would be a hell of a thing if mahomes decided to do this for us. He has such a unique contract that he can actually do it since each year is loaded with roster bonuses.

It would be mostly unprecedented. But the dude has a chance to build a superpower and keep a few guys he really likes. Would he sacrifice a few million to get him a stud of a weapon? Dude is so competitive and loves his teammates so much I can’t help but wonder if it’s actually in the cards

Skyy God 01-11-2023 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16728902)
C'mon man.....that didn't ****ing happen.

It absolutely happened. I was off by one slot on where Jones was drafted and he corrected me. Was within $1-2M of his son’s guaranteed contract number.

He and Jones’ agent were at the Lot J tailgate. Quality spread, good party.

Skyy God 01-11-2023 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16728909)
First, nobody should expect pat to do this. And good chance it’s wishful thinking. But man that would be a hell of a thing if mahomes decided to do this for us. He has such a unique contract that he can actually do it since each year is loaded with roster bonuses.

It would be mostly unprecedented. But the dude has a chance to build a superpower and keep a few guys he really likes. Would he sacrifice a few million to get him a stud of a weapon? Dude is so competitive and loves his teammates so much I can’t help but wonder if it’s actually in the cards

TB12 took less, but the Pats tended to not spend up to the cap.

CHunt doesn’t seem to have that problem.

ToxSocks 01-11-2023 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16728910)
It absolutely happened. I was off by one slot on where Jones was drafted and he corrected me. Was within $1-2M of his son’s guaranteed contract number.

He and Jones’ agent were at the Lot J tailgate. Quality spread, good party.

No one Belize you.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2023 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16728908)
We’ve tried to find that guy for awhile but haven’t. Jehu Chesson, Demarcus Robinson, Byron Pringle, Cornell Powell. And now apparently Skyy Moore.

People can point to that, but the data does not prove it right.

I’m mostly with you. I think we’ve proven we’re not very good at finding hidden WR1 gems. But jjss doesn’t solve that. He’s a possession WR with a huge target share on an offense that opens him up for short stuff. We’ve brought in lots of speed guys, but we haven’t tried as much with possession guys.

Skyy God 01-11-2023 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16728914)
No one Belize you.

I get it.

You people are lame AF, so it sounds unBelizeable.


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