D Hop has two years left in his Prime, Health willing he is still a HOF WR and yes playing with Mahomes would open up other people….

If you don’t double him he’s going to murder you.

Oh and we need a vet WR in that room. Adding a HOF looking for a ring before he starts downside of career….

Sign me the **** up

For this team it's probably worth the gamble, unless of course you don't think placing yourself firmly ahead of everyone in the SB conversation matters.

I want them to focus on the OL and defense more than anything else. You can have the greatest offense in the world and it won’t mean anything if the defense blows it. We saw this in 2018. Strong OL & Strong defense are the 2 things Belichick was able to put on the field seemingly every year in the Patriots dynasty.

If it's a 3 or 4 it's really not going to prevent anything else from happening.

Last year's playoff run should be the nail in the coffin of the 80s talking heads defense wins championship mantra. But it won't be cause they can't help themselves.

If the Cardinals allow a meeting between Hopkins and the Chiefs before a possible trade, Veach should walk in, sit down in front of D-Hop and just start clinking his two Super Bowl rings together. Don't say a word, just clink those rings together for about 30 seconds and stare directly into his eyes. And just when the sheer awkwardness gets to the unbearable point, Veach needs to say "D-Hop, if you want one of these, maybe even two of these to clink together, you accept a trade to us without a new deal. You play for $19.45M in 2023 and $14.915M in 2024 and you walk away as a HOF-er with a Super Bowl ring or two as your legacy. Or you add a few more million dollars to what should already be a bank account so big your grand-kids won't be able to spend it all and watch us keep racking up Lombardi's. It's time to figure out what your priorities are."

If he plays his on his current deal, I'd give up a 2nd and a 4th for him and drive a wooden stake through the heart of the rest of the NFL. He absolutely looked like one of the best WRs in the NFL for a few games when he came back. With Kyler Murray throwing to him. The opportunity to play with Patrick would turn his biological clock back a couple seasons.

If he wants a new deal then wish him good luck and move on.

What about moving up and grabbing a WR in the 12-20 range?

Or are there lots of talented receivers later in the draft?

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That would cost more in draft capital and the guy would unlikely hit the ground running.

I'm not even against giving Hopkins a new deal if it's reasonable. If he's coming in at an 18-22 avg that isn't bad for who Hopkins is.

Hey, I get it. And until Mahomes showed up, I was as old school as it gets about defense. Used to prop up Bill all the time with his philosophy about how to maintain a dynasty.

But what I've come to realize in the last couple three years is that the Chiefs aren't the Patriots. Clark Hunt isn't Kraft. Andy isn't Bill. It's almost like they're polar opposites.

And then we have the rules. Which have now leaned hugely in the direction of offense. You can't even play the kind of defense Bill used to put on the field. They've even made some of Bill's adjustments illegal now.

The way to win SBs is now mostly in the hands of the offense. That's not to say that you don't need a defense, because obviously that's stupid. But you don't need a top-5 defense to keep winning SBs. Top 14-ish will get it done.

You do need a top-5 offense though. The days of building teams that rely on running the ball over passing, that lean on a top-5 defense to win SBs is over. Now, Andy got away with fielding a bunch of rooks and WR2s or WR3s this time. But it was like a magic trick, or pulling off a miracle 70-yard Hail Mary. It can be done, and if anyone's going to do it, I trust Andy and Pat to make t happen, but I don't want the Chiefs to have to rely on that formula. At least not if they don't have to.

Bringing in an elite WR of DHop's caliber for the next couple years would make everything that much easier.

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This draft seems to me, from my reading and mocks to be a not great draft in the top of the first. Not much in like, sure-fire, future all-pros. But a LOT of good talent in that late first to late second and into the third rounds at several interesting positions for KC, like DE, WR, TE, and even OT.

I think moving UP to get a WR is unlikely given what it costs to do so, but I fully expect we'll grab a guy in the first two days.

It’s not impossible to play defense in the modern game. Belichick shutdown a pretty good Rams offense for only 3 points in the Super Bowl a few years ago. The Bengals defense has never given up more than 23-24 points in 7 playoff games the last 2 seasons. Cincy held Josh Allen to 10 points and they’ve consistently held the KC offense below 25 points. KC defense gave up 36 to Buffalo last year and 35 to Philly this year. I don’t believe it’s a sustainable approach to winning.

We had the number one offense in football. If you want to spend money on the offense, spend it on protecting Mahomes. Otherwise, spend it on pass rushers and keeping the good young talent we have that won us a Super Bowl and have us poised to seriously threaten to repeat.

Draft and develop our own.