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BWillie 11-23-2024 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17819268)
Mahomes, 4 of the last 5 SBs, winning 3. Allen=nah

If you switched Mahomes with Allen for their entire careers it's hard to argue the results would be MUCH different. I think we still get 2 just not 3.

They are both really really good and any time Allen lost to Mahomes in the postseason there really isn't anything else he could have done.

TheGuardian 11-23-2024 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17819959)
Wanya morris pff is 57.3 on the season.

So who cares “who was the main problem vs bills”.

84.1 pff grade is bigg enough gap from 57.3 to make it obvious that mahomes isn’t the problem this year.

So you think that Pat is playing well because he's last in every meaningful category of his career for this season compared to every other.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17819994)
So you think that Pat is playing well because he's last in every meaningful category of his career for this season compared to every other.

Another lie.

TheGuardian 11-23-2024 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17819997)
Another lie.

yards per game lowest
passing rating lowest
TD to INT ration worse in his career

What are you hanging your hat on, his completion percentage?

Well that's great because his yards per pass is tied for his lowest.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17820013)
yards per game lowest
passing rating lowest
TD to INT ration worse in his career

What are you hanging your hat on, his completion percentage?

Well that's great because his yards per pass is tied for his lowest.

Mahomes’ QBR is not even close to his worst season in his career. That would be 2021 with 2023 and 2024 following shortly after that.

But you knew that.

Megatron96 11-23-2024 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17819997)
Another lie.



Uh, better check again, because he's right.
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...M/MahoPa00.htm


Also, Mahomes' passing stats this season vs. all other starters puts him in the bottom third of the league:
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/pla.../qb-rating-nfl


And today I heard on the radio that Mahomes is dead last in explosive/chunk passing plays, or something to that effect. And through 11 weeks he's successfully hit less than half the number of explosive/chunk plays he hit last season.


It's not good.

MahomesMagic 11-23-2024 05:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adjusted Quarterback Efficiency (AQE) through Week 11 <a href="https://twitter.com/Unexpected_Pts?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Unexpected_Pts</a><br><br>- Kyler Murray the new per-play leader<br>- Lamar Jackson falls, but still leads significantly in total adjusted EPA<br>- Sam Darnold with a massive adjustment up, Jared Goff in the other direction <a href="https://t.co/sU98aqEOdb">pic.twitter.com/sU98aqEOdb</a></p>&mdash; Kevin Cole (@KevinCole___) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinCole___/status/1859233477733835050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17820036)
Uh, better check again, because he's right.
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...M/MahoPa00.htm


Also, Mahomes' passing stats this season vs. all other starters puts him in the bottom third of the league:
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/pla.../qb-rating-nfl


And today I heard on the radio that Mahomes is dead last in explosive/chunk passing plays, or something to that effect. And through 11 weeks he's successfully hit less than half the number of explosive/chunk plays he hit last season.


It's not good.

Looks like you may want to look up Mahomes’ 2021 QBR too.

There is nothing unusual about his regular season performance not being MVP level at this point.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17820056)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adjusted Quarterback Efficiency (AQE) through Week 11 <a href="https://twitter.com/Unexpected_Pts?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Unexpected_Pts</a><br><br>- Kyler Murray the new per-play leader<br>- Lamar Jackson falls, but still leads significantly in total adjusted EPA<br>- Sam Darnold with a massive adjustment up, Jared Goff in the other direction <a href="https://t.co/sU98aqEOdb">pic.twitter.com/sU98aqEOdb</a></p>&mdash; Kevin Cole (@KevinCole___) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinCole___/status/1859233477733835050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Maybe we should trade Mahomes for Sam Darnold, at least we’d be getting the better regular season QB

TheGuardian 11-23-2024 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17820036)
Uh, better check again, because he's right.
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...M/MahoPa00.htm


Also, Mahomes' passing stats this season vs. all other starters puts him in the bottom third of the league:
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/pla.../qb-rating-nfl


And today I heard on the radio that Mahomes is dead last in explosive/chunk passing plays, or something to that effect. And through 11 weeks he's successfully hit less than half the number of explosive/chunk plays he hit last season.


It's not good.

He's last in the league in passes of 20+ yards or more. LAST.

Dude up there literally has on rose colored glasses.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17820079)
He's last in the league in passes of 20+ yards or more. LAST.

Dude up there literally has on rose colored glasses.

Yeah, that has nothing to do with the playcalling or how this team is defended. None at all.

TheGuardian 11-23-2024 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820081)
Yeah, that has nothing to do with the playcalling or how this team is defended. None at all.

You're right there's not a whole other thread pointing out how he can't hit the broad side of a barn with a bass fiddle on his deep throws.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17820085)
You're right there's not a whole other thread pointing out how he can't hit the broad side of a barn with a bass fiddle on his deep throws.

Patrick Mahomes: 78.1 QBR (2020), 67.1 QBR (2021), 79.0 QBR (2022), 63.9 QBR (2023), 67.0 QBR (2024)

His worst season ever you said. Except it’s on par with 2021 and better than last year.

-King- 11-23-2024 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17820085)
You're right there's not a whole other thread pointing out how he can't hit the broad side of a barn with a bass fiddle on his deep throws.

Don't bother. He picks one pet statistic and just repeats it post after post and ignores literally everything else. It's really not worth clogging up threads to go back and forth with him.

Megatron96 11-23-2024 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820063)
Looks like you may want to look up Mahomes’ 2021 QBR too.

There is nothing unusual about his regular season performance not being MVP level at this point.



Bud, this is his worst QBR as a starter (not counting 2017) with the exception of the 2021 season. And starting with Succ%, just run straight across those stats; he's either worst of his career, or 2nd to worst in every statistical category.

Succ%-2nd to worst,
Lng (which I could care less)-worst
Y/A-tied worst
AY/A-WORST
Y/C-worst
Y/G-worst
Passer Rate-worst
QBR-2nd worst
NY/A-WORST
ANY/A-worst

And, he's on pace to get sacked more this season than in any other season of his career. Also his %/games with an INT makes him 39th @80%.

His overall play is a problem. And it's not just one thing. He needs to get his shit back together over the next few weeks.


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