Brad Jones or Karlos Dansby.

Rey Mauluga was in Arizona.

James Anderson from Carolina is a great fit. Cap casualty.

God this is one big mind ****! Theyre keeping it quiet

Greg Wesley out of retirement?

Don't know anything about him, but if he's a former 2nd rounder who is only 25 and had interest from several teams, I'm assuming he's alright.

The more you know.

http://i.imgur.com/nzcjURY.jpg

Smith is Excellent when in press coverage. He is very physical and jams you at the line.

However in Press coverage he is average. Half the time he gets beat in double moves and runs a sub par 4.5. Average for a DB.

We need aggressive press corners. Give our pass rushers time to get to QB

What?

Man Flowers is a beast

wut

Um...which is it?

My bad. On the second sentence it should be Zone Coverage.

Noun press coverage vs. proper noun press coverage, duh.

What do you want for dinner, chicken or chicken?

Lol now Mike Mayock is saying Geno Smith is a TOP 10 TALENT!!

ROFL

press shirt = good

but

press shirt = bad

ya so where were we. oh ya -- smith>carr

that may be a typo on their part but it says Carr was still with KC so is that even last year's stats?

Actually...it can't be. It says Revis played over 1000 snaps and I know he didn't do that last year.

How was his PFF ratings last year? I'm sure much better since you posted that link (probably from 2011) instead of last year.

Yeah, I'm going to trust the grading scale that put Routt in the top 10.

Get ****ed.

Nope because William Gay was in Arizona.

yeah, once again he posted something to make him look like he has a point...that's 2011, not even 2012

he can be really pathetic

And we all know too well that Routt wasn't in OAK last year.

yep

in 2001 Tom Brady only threw for 2800 yards and he had 12 picks and 9 fumbles

god damn that's not even 200 yards a game

he's alex smith

Who cares?

The fact he was that bad that close to the present is a concern.

And he was barely any better last season.

carr's AV;

5,7,8,6

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...C/CarrBr99.htm





smith's;

5,4,8,8

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/SmitSe99.htm

:facepalm:

I've been saying he was the worst CB in football in 2011 for over a week now.

Don't act surprised I posted this. Or confused.

well if he was BARELY any better last season why post 2011 instead of 2012?

if 2012 was SO bad why not just let it speak for itself?

oh, that's right...because you try and juke every stat because you're a moron

Because I think this is a better indicator of his ability.

Quit whining. There's almost nothing that says Sean Smith is actually a good player.

Ronde Barber had worse numbers according to that link...

and why don't you post 2012 so we can see what we're getting?

I'd love to look at something like that...instead of looking at something and then having to realize it's from 2011.

If it was the NFL of 2001 I would feel better about our chances.

yea all too busy drinking the Routt kool aid last year then ran and hid when he made you look like fools during the season for being the biggest fraud of a player


but gladly hop back on that train with Sean Smith only to piss your pants with let down on Sundays when hes being beat like a drum on the bottom of your television

I don't care about your opinion...but I would like to see 2012 to see if he had a rebound year according to that site.

Why is it that hard to post?

and how is his play in 2011 a better indicator of what player he is opposed to his play in 2012? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

so because our last GM was the biggest piece of shit GM ever and made shitty move after shitty move

we should expect our new GM to be the same guy?

we should have just kept Carl for christ sake

Ronde Barber had a better coverage rating.

That's kind of important for CBs.

Cool.

Now lets see his 2012 numbers. I want to see how bad he was in 2012, too. I'm honestly just curious.

...the fact you're holding them back leads me to believe he must have had an ok bounce back year.

He had a "rebound year" in the sense that he had a 0.7 coverage rating and a -3.1 overall rating instead of being ****ing abysmal.

He still gave up over 700 yards and 6 TD so it wasn't that big of an improvement. That was almost identical to his 2011.

He had two pretty good games that saved his rating from being ****ing abysmal again.

I think he had a better year than Brandon Carr according to PFF. So we've upgraded!

TBG, so we dont know who was in KC last night? Still there?

Can you post the 2012 rankings like you did 2011? Kthxbye.

LMAO

so nowwwwwwwwwww we know why you posted 2011

haha

I told you why: it's a better indicator of his ability.

He's ****ing garbage.

Either way, both years, 700+ yards allowed. Pretty sad.

this is just like the Alex Smith stat rape he did...

he jukes the stats

it's ridiculous even acknowledging him

if for some reason the Chiefs started 8-2 this year and Alex Smith was playing Trent Green like football he'd flip flop faster than you could say tortuga

quoted because all the other quotes in this thread suck

Sean Smith was thrown to more than any other CB in the nfl and only came down with 2 INTs. He gave up the 2nd most TD's in the nfl, would've been more of Sanchez was able to hit his wide open targets.

Still not a good tackler, has a big ego, guesses a lot and guesses wrong. Wouldn't be a big deal if he was more physical, but he isn't. All in all, not worth his contract.

2011 stats are a better indicator than 2012 stats when he started and played 16 games both seasons?

...

I'd really like to hear the reasoning behind this conclusion. I'm sure it will make plenty of sense.

I didn't "juke" shit.

I gave you all the data.

Post a screenshot of the 2012 rankings then. No reason not to.

I don't know a whole lot about Sean Smith. I'm not saying he doesn't suck.

Whatever.

I'm not against the Chiefs signing players and spending money. Doesn't bother me a bit. I also fail to see how Smith, Robinson, DeVito and Avery are 'team breakers'...pretty sure if they bust we can cut them, move on, and take minimal cap hits.

Who cares? We have money. Spend it.

Let me be very clear for you.

The guy allowed the same number of yards both seasons.

Dolphins fans say he's ****ing garbage.

Therefore, I think 2011 is the best indicator of who he is.

Especially when his 2012 rating was only saved by two good games.

Go miss another field goal asshole

not to mention the fact

our ****ing scheme sucked last year

our scheme made Eric Berry look average at best

who's to say some of these guys won't be better players in different schemes?

Shit...we're spending money. Didn't the complaint used to be 'omg we're too cheap!'

now that we're spending a bit of money trying to improve the roster where we are weak suddenly it's 'omg we're spending too much money!'

Because Derek Cox, a better CB, could've been had for less. And now he's going to a rival.

I don't mind them spending money either, but when they spend money on hot garbage and give him what, 11mil guaranteed? You're just wasting it.

I'm fine with the Chiefs spending money.

I'm not fine with them spending it a pair of shitty Smiths.

Cool. So he's capable of having good games. Maybe he can be more consistent in KC.

Maybe he won't.

Hardly care...we're bringing in competition to the spots we were weak at in '12. Cool.

well I'll shoot Clark an email telling him he either needs to hire OTWP and GoChiefs as his co-GM's or at least pay for a PFF membership since those stats are gospel...PHIL EMERY SAID SO!!!

Scheme is going to help a lot.


If you don't think so you are a ****ing idiot.


(Whoops. Edited)

The fact that he refuses to post the 2012 rankings is a pretty good indication that Smith was ranked fairly well last year.

They should have asked you first. Andy and Dorsey, what do they know.

Wait Clay you wont post his 2012 PFF stats?

Maybe they should've, since apparently they don't know CB talent.

And you do? Right, go it

About damn time.

No because 2011 is a better indicator of what type of player he is even though he started 16 games in 2012...according to clay, a true genious

Has anyone actually seen this guy play a bunch of games rather than looking at a bunch of numbers? The sites great if it backs up what you see on the field.

I don't know shit about evaluating talent.

It's not hard to identify shitty players though.

Where is the evidence that Sean Smith is actually a decent corner?

Apparently he "improved" in 2012 and still allowed 700+ yards and was so hated by his own fan base they call it "addition by subtraction."

I'd rather have a 33-year old Ty Law than this turd.

It makes sense.

He gave up the same number of yards both years.

**** me for not being a homer, right?

Wow Chase Daniel only costs 750k against the cap in 2013.

Yep, watched every Dolphins game last year.

Dumbass. Try reading.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=759

It makes no sense. None. None at all.

Looks like he got thrown at ALOT.

Go create another GIF you no pussy getting bum

Clay is making himself look worse with every post he doesn't post the rankings in LMAO

Herm qEdwards went off on Skip Bayless. Bayless was saying we might as well crown the Broncos the Super Bowl and Herm says the Chiefs will win the division.

What was Alex Smith's PFF ranking the last 2 years?

I don't take orders from you.

Since you guys are such hateful dipshits on me for having an informed opinion (instead of being a homer), I'm not doing shit for you.

yeah right

like he'd post that