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cockeyes 04-26-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9631607)
Objectively, you have to realize how insane the bolded sentence is, no?

Nope, picking a third round player at #1 would have been wise because he's a QB.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-26-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9631609)
The Jets offense is a shit sandwich. The Jets defense had excellent CBs and had 3 young players picked for the line in the past couple of years.

The Jets traded away the best CB in the game and then drafted a CB and a D-lineman, while leaving the offensive cupboard as bare as any in the league. They're now scrambling to get a QB who might make up for the disastrous QB decision they made in 2009 (which many of the same GENO!!!! idiots were screaming for back then), but even they waited until the second round. Using them as an example of anything besides painful stupidity is probably not the way to go.

Just Go Away jeez

In58men 04-26-2013 12:37 PM

@APdaveskretta: #Chiefs GM John Dorsey blitzed out of Eric Fisher presser, needed to get back on phone with #Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland re: Branden Albert.

Sorter 04-26-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9631621)
If the Jets trade up to get their QB, instead of saying "never again" and only trading for backups, after failing on their last attempt, I don't think I can call them stupid.

While I love Sheldon Richardson, they have two competent players in Coples and Wilkerson who can play the same position. If they move to a 4-3 fully and/or move Coples to a 7tech, they are probably morons. The guy is best suited as an interior pass rusher.

cockeyes 04-26-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9631582)
So Jets are now trying to move up to draft Geno


I love how even the worst of worst teams try to fix their QB situation and make bold moves. Bills and Jets will have a better draft than us.

Well assuming this is true which is doubtful since the Jets already passed on him twice, maybe they feel like the rest of the league - that around the middle of the second or lower is the right value for him, and probably not until at least one more QB comes off the board.

cockeyes 04-26-2013 12:40 PM

I also don't think it's fair to compare Brady Quinn and Geno Smith.

Not fair to Brady Quinn, he only fell to #22

Pitt Gorilla 04-26-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9631647)
@APdaveskretta: #Chiefs GM John Dorsey blitzed out of Eric Fisher presser, needed to get back on phone with #Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland re: Branden Albert.

I think I just JIMP a little.

Pitt Gorilla 04-26-2013 12:42 PM

Just to be clear. If we can get a second rounder for Albert and Geno is available at that pick, I would be all for it.

jd1020 04-26-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9631663)
Just to be clear. If we can get a second rounder for Albert and Geno is available at that pick, I would be all for it.

Pretty sure only racists would be against it.

People bringing up Geno and his character concerns while hoping for Tyler Bray later down the line.

Just Passin' By 04-26-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9631621)
If the Jets trade up to get their QB, instead of saying "never again" and only trading for backups, after failing on their last attempt, I don't think I can call them stupid.

They're stupid, but even they are not trading into 1.1 for a second round player.

NorthernWV 04-26-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9628565)
LMAO LMAO I'm laughing so much at the anti-Geno people. This is like Christmas for them. people are coming out of the woodwork just to talk shit. LMAO

...and in 6 months realize that they are still under .500 and the franchise has sold 16 total Eric Fisher jerseys, and they are destined to pick a guard a 1.1 next season

jd1020 04-26-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9631673)
They're stupid, but even they are not trading into 1.1 for a second round player.

In case you missed it, 1.X is no longer on the board.

In58men 04-26-2013 12:46 PM

@RapSheet: For #Chiefs and Branden Albert: They'll be disappointed if a trade doesn't happen. BUT: GM John Dorsey loves the player. So, there's that


It won't happen. Lets focus on the 3rd round fellas.

Just Passin' By 04-26-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9631680)
In case you missed it, 1.X is no longer on the board.

I didn't miss it. In case you missed it, Geno Smith wasn't a first round pick in the 2013 draft, despite all the CP calls for him to be taken at 1.1.

jd1020 04-26-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9631682)
@RapSheet: For #Chiefs and Branden Albert: They'll be disappointed if a trade doesn't happen. BUT: GM John Dorsey loves the player. So, there's that


It won't happen. Lets focus on the 3rd round fellas.

Dorsey love's him so much he waived the tampering clause to help facilitate a trade.

So tired of hearing about the "love" the Chiefs have for Albert.

jd1020 04-26-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9631690)
I didn't miss it. In case you missed it, Geno Smith wasn't a first round pick in the 2013 draft, despite all the CP calls for him to be taken at 1.1.

I didn't miss it. I'm just trying to figure out why you are bringing up pick 1.1 when it's long gone. They'd be trading up in the 2nd for a 2nd round player you moron.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9631557)
Trivia question:

Which ESPN NFL analyst who runs a QB camp said this?



^^^ Trust this mans opinion above all.

LMAO
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Just Passin' By 04-26-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9631696)
I didn't miss it. I'm just trying to figure out why you are bringing up pick 1.1 when it's long gone. They'd be trading up in the 2nd for a 2nd round player you moron.

If you're trying to figure out why 1.1. was mentioned with regards to taking a QB in a GENO!!!! thread, you're a complete ****ing idiot.

Kidd Lex 04-26-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9631692)
Dorsey love's him so much he waived the tampering clause to help facilitate a trade.

So tired of hearing about the "love" the Chiefs have for Albert.

You can love someone without being in love. Trust me, I heard this throughout adolescence. :deevee:

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2013 12:57 PM

They arent doing shit at QB. And if they do, it will be a total suckwad.
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jd1020 04-26-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9631715)
If you're trying to figure out why 1.1. was mentioned with regards to taking a QB in a GENO!!!! thread, you're a complete ****ing idiot.

If this conversion happened 24 hours ago I would complete understand why 1.1 was mentioned, but unfortunately for you it's not.

HemiEd 04-26-2013 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9631180)
So we dont trade for Alex draft a LT at 1.1 and pray there is a developmental QB at 2.2?

There were other veteran rejects available that wouldn't have cost that price. But yet, let's just keep doing it, it is going to work one of these times, it has to!

My biggest problem with the whole issue, is that they did it right out of the chute, just like ***** did. Heck, I doubt they even knew where the washroom was yet, neither one of them.

round and around we go, we are going to catch that tail one of these days!
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Originally Posted by opposition (Post 9631181)
Who would be your starting QB? Would Geno be ready? I say no and always have thought no.

The way they have been doing it isn't working.

They even sat Todd Blackledge on the bench to watch, until the fans got so restless that they put him in.

Now, I am in the minority, for sure.

But I think sitting and "learning" put fear of failure in Stanzi that he didn't have when he played his first exhibition game. The Iowa College fans that I know, said he didn't have that choking fear in Iowa either. So yeah, lets do something different that hasn't proven over and over to fail, throw a kid in there and see if he succeeds prior to ruining him.

keg in kc 04-26-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9631743)
My biggest problem with the whole issue, is that they did it right out of the chute, just like ***** did. Heck, I doubt they even knew where the washroom was yet, neither one of them.

That was my issue as well. They decided on him before the ink was even dry on Reid's contract (probably before an actual contract existed to sign).

stevieray 04-26-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9631667)
Pretty sure only racists would be against it.

you can't be serious...

Predarat 04-26-2013 01:14 PM

He did kind of act Vince Youngish last night, though if that happened to me I might act Vince Youngish myself. Though if its between Geno and Bray I say
Geno > Bray

HemiEd 04-26-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9631770)
That was my issue as well. They decided on him before the ink was even dry on Reid's contract (probably before an actual contract existed to sign).

Exactly keg, and that is what has led me to believe that once these GMs agreed to a deal, Clark dropped the other shoe and told them how things are done in KC.

HemiEd 04-26-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 9631791)
He did kind of act Vince Youngish last night, though if that happened to me I might act Vince Youngish myself. Though if its between Geno and Bray I say
Geno > Bray

That has been a sad situation that the NFL/Espn have been putting these young men in for years.
They keep panning in on them when they aren't picked, squirming and embarrassed.

This practice should be stopped just like they did on the phone calls to keep from divulging the pick.

ChiefsCountry 04-26-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9631743)
The way they have been doing it isn't working.

They even sat Todd Blackledge on the bench to watch, until the fans got so restless that they put him in.

Bill Kenney it seemed was never bad enough to bench or good to enough to win. Thus Blackledge really never got the best shake. Never really was allowed just to take the whole reigns and go with. Now he didn't turn out to be anything but he did have a winning record when he left KC. Nowhere near as bad as the other busts of the 80s like Joziwak, Ethan Horton, Anthony Hancock, Paul Palmer, Willie Scott.

Kidd Lex 04-26-2013 01:28 PM

Looks like Jets are trying to move up to 39:

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...erback-sources

Get on the phone with Arizona...

Kidd Lex 04-26-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The God Hypothesis (Post 9631823)
Looks like Jets are trying to move up from 39:

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...erback-sources

Get on the phone with Arizona...

FMP

HemiEd 04-26-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9631819)
Bill Kenney it seemed was never bad enough to bench or good to enough to win. Thus Blackledge really never got the best shake. Never really was allowed just to take the whole reigns and go with. Now he didn't turn out to be anything but he did have a winning record when he left KC. Nowhere near as bad as the other busts of the 80s like Joziwak, Ethan Horton, Anthony Hancock, Paul Palmer, Willie Scott.

Unlike some others on here **cough, gblowfish,cough** I was a big Bill Kenney fan. Those were some tough years, and the fans had built up a lot of hope in Blackledge.

You make a good point though, IMO, this fanbase has never had the patience for a rookie QB to OJT, and maybe that is Hunt's reservation. Do you honestly think this fan base would have the patience for any QB short of Luck/Manning talent?

Rausch 04-26-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9631682)
@RapSheet: For #Chiefs and Branden Albert: They'll be disappointed if a trade doesn't happen. BUT: GM John Dorsey loves the player. So, there's that


It won't happen. Lets focus on the 3rd round fellas.

We have the first pick in the 3rd. We could always trade up...

Predarat 04-26-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9631816)
That has been a sad situation that the NFL/Espn have been putting these young men in for years.
They keep panning in on them when they aren't picked, squirming and embarrassed.

This practice should be stopped just like they did on the phone calls to keep from divulging the pick.

It would have been ****ing hillarious if that happened to Phillip Rivers though.

HemiEd 04-26-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 9631853)
It would have been ****ing hillarious if that happened to Phillip Rivers though.

In retrospect yes, but at the time I didn't know what a punk he was. That whole draft was a boondogle-diversion with the BS the Manning's pulled.

Otter 04-26-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9631667)
Pretty sure only racists would be against it.

People bringing up Geno and his character concerns while hoping for Tyler Bray later down the line.

:LOL:

Otter 04-26-2013 03:32 PM

:cough:

cockeyes 04-26-2013 05:09 PM

Jaguars and Eagles passed on him again

There it is, 'Gina Mafia, you are Jets fans now

Pasta Little Brioni 04-26-2013 05:10 PM

Booooooooooooooooooooo

In58men 04-26-2013 05:18 PM

Yep like I said Jets and Bills the worst of the worst will have a better draft.


We will be there one day.

In58men 04-26-2013 05:55 PM

No comments huh lol

Pasta Little Brioni 04-26-2013 06:09 PM

Draft meltdowns are funny

buddha 04-26-2013 06:52 PM

Bill Kenny was a 4,000 yard passer. He was good enough. Blackledge had plenty of chances. He was horrible. If you disagree, please tell us why?

Pitt Gorilla 04-26-2013 08:59 PM

Thread title should be Lol QBs in this draft.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2013 09:43 PM

Can't WAIT to watch Geno own that division when the Snatchz-era is over.
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Hammock Parties 04-26-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9635611)
Can't WAIT to watch Geno own that division when the Snatchz-era is over.
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Word is Sanchez could be released.

Jets know they got a stud on the cheap.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9635625)
Word is Sanchez could be released.

Jets know they got a stud on the cheap.

He's gonna pwn the Pats! He's gonna rape the Raves! And he's gonna' choco-dong the Dolphins into oblivion!
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Fairplay 04-26-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9635625)
Word is Sanchez could be released.

Jets know they got a stud on the cheap.



Sanchez can be our number 2

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9635694)
Sanchez can be our number 2

Woudlnt shock me at all at this point.
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Bewbies 04-26-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9635373)
Thread title should be Lol QBs in this draft.

Clearly the NFL doesn't think any of these guys are any good. What a shit draft we won...

Messier 04-26-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9635625)
Word is Sanchez could be released.

Jets know they got a stud on the cheap.

Or, they aren't going to keep 6 QBs and Sanchez was on his way out anyway.

Dylan 04-26-2013 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9635625)
Word is Sanchez could be released.

According to NY Daily News:
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the Jets are locked into Mark Sanchez for $8.25 million in 2013 thanks to one of the most ill-conceived contract extensions in NFL history.

Sanchez’s cap number next year is already $12.8 million. It would balloon to $17.1 million if the Jets cut him before June 1, or if he’s a June 1 cut, they could spread the charge over two years and absorb $12.35 million in 2013 and $4.8 million in 2014. As a result, they are not cutting him. But he could be the highest-paid backup in the NFL.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.1223333

According to CBS Sports:
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Sanchez is due $8.25 million fully guaranteed in 2013 (and then makes another $500,000 in workout bonuses from being on the roster). Furthermore, according to sources with knowledge of the contract, there are no offsets in the contracts -- so the player, if released, could earn a full salary from the next team that signed him -- and the contract language dictates that if they are released, they must be paid the full amount they are owed within 30 days. In many cases there is offset language in such contracts and guaranteed payments can be spread out over a much more lengthy period of time.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/ja...s-future-hopes

philfree 04-26-2013 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 9635984)

And yet Dick Lick Willie thinks the Jets are doing it the right way when it comes to QBs.:thumb:

Fairplay 04-27-2013 12:36 AM

"Sanchez is due $8.25 million fully guaranteed in 2013 (and then makes another $500,000 in workout bonuses from being on the roster). Furthermore, according to sources with knowledge of the contract, there are no offsets in the contracts -- so the player, if released, could earn a full salary from the next team that signed him -- and the contract language dictates that if they are released, they must be paid the full amount they are owed within 30 days. In many cases there is offset language in such contracts and guaranteed payments can be spread out over a much more lengthy period of time."



He has a good agent no question about that. Sanchez is laughing all the way to the bank.

ChiefBoyRDEE 04-27-2013 04:37 AM

i feel bad for the guy, the Jets are a horrible place for him

Rausch 04-27-2013 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBoyRDEE (Post 9636223)
i feel bad for the guy, the Jets are a horrible place for him

"There are no bad subjects. It's the scientist that fails to produce."

http://www.givememyremote.com/remote...6-featured.jpg

Lprechaun 04-27-2013 06:42 AM

So when Geno blows and is just another Vick in the end his fans will say its because the Jets organization .... EVERY team in the league passed on him for a reason.
Thank god we didn't waste our pick on him.

MahiMike 04-27-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBoyRDEE (Post 9636223)
i feel bad for the guy, the Jets are a horrible place for him

That town will make him the next Vince Young.

-King- 04-27-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9635694)
Sanchez can be our number 2

Nah. I'd rather have Chase Daniel.

scho63 04-27-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9635750)
Clearly the NFL doesn't think any of these guys are any good. What a shit draft we won...

Like first prize in a "Miss Ugly" contest

Molitoth 04-27-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9636378)
That town will make him the next Vince Young.

Because those 2 are soooo similar.

God you are mental.

GoChargers 04-27-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Predarat (Post 9631853)
It would have been ****ing hillarious if that happened to Phillip Rivers though.

His meltdown faces would have been epic for sure. The only thing better, reaction-wise, would be if Peyton had somehow slipped out of the first round on draft day.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-27-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9635988)
And yet Dick Lick Willie thinks the Jets are doing it the right way when it comes to QBs.:thumb:

Listen shit-for-brains, I said that they continue to draft and take shots at the position. Did I ever once say I admired their business practices after the fact? Now, tell me all about the great QB depth the Chiefs currently possess when Alice gets knocked.......wait for it......

"Smooooooooooooooooth, the hell-out"!
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Sweet Daddy Hate 04-27-2013 09:41 PM

Talk to me about the Jets in a couple of years and when Rex is gone. Yeah.
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