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TomBarndtsTwin 05-06-2018 07:17 PM

Lol. I love my Royals, but there is NO way this team is contending for anything over the period of a full season. Fans need to let go of that pipe dream and any what/if scenarios. The rebuild is officially on. Expect 3 or 4 guys to go at the trade line. We’ll see more Triple A players the second half and the start of next year.

The real strength of the farm system (the single A guys) are still a few years away.

BigCatDaddy 05-06-2018 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 13548089)
They need to not make the mistake they made a few years ago. They need to decide if they're contenders or not, (they are not by the way). They need to decide now if they're going to be sellers at the deadline. If they get stuck in no mans land, they'll put off the rebuild for another few years.

Herrera should bring some nice pieces back... not sure.if anyone else would that we would part with.

ChiTown 05-06-2018 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13548068)
They're only 6 games out on May 6th. I wouldn't go put money on them, but they are totally "in the race." You could make that up easy with a two week hot streak.

https://media.giphy.com/media/ncbdoCpKerEbK/200w.gif

tk13 05-06-2018 09:00 PM

I never said I think they are contenders, but if you want Dayton to start unloading guys you may have to get this team farther than 5 or 6 back. That's nothing, even at the trade deadline. And you know how Dayton feels about losing on purpose.

This team isn't in the ballpark of teams like the Red Sox or Yankees or Angels at this point. But our division looks absolutely terrible and that's just about half your schedule.

Coach 05-06-2018 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13548215)
I never said I think they are contenders, but if you want Dayton to start unloading guys you may have to get this team farther than 5 or 6 back. That's nothing, even at the trade deadline. And you know how Dayton feels about losing on purpose.

This team isn't in the ballpark of teams like the Red Sox or Yankees or Angels at this point. But our division looks absolutely terrible and that's just about half your schedule.

Yeah, but I'm not too confident that the Royals will challenge the division because of several factors below:

- Run differential is -58, 2nd to last in MLB (Baltimore has the worst at -72).
- Royals team OPS is .696, 24th in the MLB.
- Royals pitching ERA is 5.14, 2nd to last in MLB (Cincinnati is at 5.18)
- Batting opponent average against the Royals is .273, 3rd worst in MLB.
- Opponents OPS against the Royals is .792, 5th worst in MLB.
- Royals pitching WHIP is 1.42, 24th in MLB.
- Royals pitching K/9 is dead last in MLB at 6.90.

I can go on and on, but this team does not meet the eye test of contending the division, regardless of how bad the division is at this point.

tk13 05-07-2018 12:01 AM

I'm still not saying they're going to win the division. Bullpen's not good enough. I'm saying they may very well end up in purgatory though. But part of that is Duffy is hurting his value right now and I am not convinced there's going to be some crazy market for Moose. You may need the Braves to keep winning and you need Jose Bautista to not work out for them. Still time for the market to play out though, but I'm worried we're going to end up in some weird middle ground.

Those stats are terrible yes, but they probably don't entirely reflect the current team either. Moose is playing well, Soler suddenly looks great, really great... Perez and Gordon are back and playing well. Whit hasn't gotten going yet. We're almost halfway to getting Bonifacio back. Mondesi is off to another blazing start in AAA and may be back up at some point. The bullpen isn't good enough and that should keep us down, but there is also reason to believe this team can at least play better than 5-20-ish baseball. If they can find a good deal for Herrera, we'll probably become a pretty frustrating team to watch.

BlackHelicopters 05-07-2018 05:25 PM

Royals take 3 out of 4.
At home
From the TIGERS.
Erections follow.

BWillie 05-07-2018 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13548279)
I'm still not saying they're going to win the division. Bullpen's not good enough. I'm saying they may very well end up in purgatory though. But part of that is Duffy is hurting his value right now and I am not convinced there's going to be some crazy market for Moose. You may need the Braves to keep winning and you need Jose Bautista to not work out for them. Still time for the market to play out though, but I'm worried we're going to end up in some weird middle ground.

Those stats are terrible yes, but they probably don't entirely reflect the current team either. Moose is playing well, Soler suddenly looks great, really great... Perez and Gordon are back and playing well. Whit hasn't gotten going yet. We're almost halfway to getting Bonifacio back. Mondesi is off to another blazing start in AAA and may be back up at some point. The bullpen isn't good enough and that should keep us down, but there is also reason to believe this team can at least play better than 5-20-ish baseball. If they can find a good deal for Herrera, we'll probably become a pretty frustrating team to watch.

It might be now. I have no effing clue why we started the year utilizing Grimm, Maurer and Boyer. That is on Ned more than Dayton. Those guys are ****ing atrocious. Everyone knew they were bad but we all though, hey this is Dayton he'll have a good bullpen.

Now with Keller, McCarthy and likely Staumont and/or Lovelady at some point could be alot better.

TomBarndtsTwin 05-07-2018 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 13548894)
Royals take 3 out of 4.
At home
From the TIGERS.
Erections follow.

Yeah, it’s ridiculous.

The guys on 610 this morning were trying so hard (I know, I know, Royals flagship station) to sell the idea that the Royals are only 6 games back and a hot streak for a couple weeks and they’re right back in it.

Most knowledgeable Royals fans see this team for what it is. A dead end. The rebuild has started. Pieces will be traded before or near the deadline. It is what it is. Know it. Learn it. Accept it.

duncan_idaho 05-07-2018 09:39 PM

Problem with the whole “only six games back!” Thing is that the Indians are still incredibly talented and haven’t played well yet. They’ll start cruising soon, especially when they start facing the Tigers and Royals and White Sox.

Hope the trade chips keep dominating, hope the good young players keep showing improvement.

Hope the team eventually slides and lands a top 5 draft pick for 19.

tk13 05-07-2018 09:53 PM

Funny thing about the Indians is they've got several guys hitting for power and their starters are doing well and looking like a top rotation, but their bullpen is a disaster. They should get Andrew Miller back this week and that'll help. I saw something that said since he went out in late April their bullpen has allowed 38 runs and posted a 10.79 ERA. It used to be bullpens were the guys who couldn't start, but now you have to have one to have a shot. They have plenty of time to figure it out, and I'm not sure anyone in the division has it together enough to challenge them.

KChiefs1 05-07-2018 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13549105)
Yeah, it’s ridiculous.

The guys on 610 this morning were trying so hard (I know, I know, Royals flagship station) to sell the idea that the Royals are only 6 games back and a hot streak for a couple weeks and they’re right back in it.

Most knowledgeable Royals fans see e. this team for what it is. A dead end. The rebuild has started. Pieces will be traded before or near the deadline. It is what it is. Know it. Learn it. Accept it.



Everyone thinks I’m an idiot for rooting for them to lose. I’d trade Moose, Perez, Herrera, Duffy, Merrifield, Duda, Jay & if there are teams who are desperate...I’d trade them Gordon, Escobar, Kennedy, Hammel.

Bring up the young guys to let them play with Soler for a couple of years & get ready to contend in 2020.

TomBarndtsTwin 05-07-2018 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13549254)
Everyone thinks I’m an idiot for rooting for them to lose. I’d trade Moose, Perez, Herrera, Duffy, Merrifield, Duda, Jay & if there are teams who are desperate...I’d trade them Gordon, Escobar, Kennedy, Hammel.

Bring up the young guys to let them play with Soler for a couple of years & get ready to contend in 2020.

I’d keep Salvy as you’re gonna need someone to nurse that next group of young pitchers as they come up. Plus, Salvy brings a degree of credibility and losing him might lose a chunk of the fanbase (new Royals fans from 2013 till now). I like Duffy, but he’s a bargaining chip at this point. Herrera should bring a solid return. Merrifield is cheap and controllable for a number of years and has position versatility, so would need a nice prospect (Top 50?) to part with him. Think Sean Manea for Ben Zobrist. The rest of those guys; trade em if you get a halfway decent offer.

I think 2020 is a bit optimistic on the window for contention, as many of our best Single A prospects may not be ready by then. I guess we’ll see . . . . .

tk13 05-07-2018 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13549263)
I’d keep Salvy as you’re gonna need someone to nurse that next group of young pitchers as they come up. Plus, Salvy brings a degree of credibility and losing him might lose a chunk of the fanbase (new Royals fans from 2013 till now). I like Duffy, but he’s a bargaining chip at this point. Herrera should bring a solid return. Merrifield is cheap and controllable for a number of years and has position versatility, so would need a nice prospect (Top 50?) to part with him. Think Sean Manea for Ben Zobrist. The rest of those guys; trade em if you get a halfway decent offer.

I think 2020 is a bit optimistic on the window for contention, as many of our best Single A prospects may not be ready by then. I guess we’ll see . . . . .

I think if you look at recent years, someone like Herrera will probably bring back an A-ball prospect or two, probably a decent younger player in someone's top 15. But it all depends on who you match up with though so it's hard to predict. Another option is doing a deal where you pair someone like Moose and Herrera together, if you can match up with someone. White Sox did that last year with Frazier and Robertson and got a decent return.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-08-2018 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13549271)
I think if you look at recent years, someone like Herrera will probably bring back an A-ball prospect or two, probably a decent younger player in someone's top 15. But it all depends on who you match up with though so it's hard to predict. Another option is doing a deal where you pair someone like Moose and Herrera together, if you can match up with someone. White Sox did that last year with Frazier and Robertson and got a decent return.

Nah this is GMDM. He'll trade Merrifield for a bullpen reclamation project. Herrera will go for an 24 yr old A Ball pitcher with shitty peripherals. And Duda will go for an extremely over-rated defensive Shortstop that makes too much money and struggles to show a .600 OPS. But he's a "Team player with the right attitude".

Payroll will go down a couple mil, the rebuild will be in full swing.

We will all go back to being the pessimistic ****-stick Royals fan we remember (I think it's already happened to me).

duncan_idaho 05-08-2018 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 13549350)
Nah this is GMDM. He'll trade Merrifield for a bullpen reclamation project. Herrera will go for an 24 yr old A Ball pitcher with shitty peripherals. And Duda will go for an extremely over-rated defensive Shortstop that makes too much money and struggles to show a .600 OPS. But he's a "Team player with the right attitude".

Payroll will go down a couple mil, the rebuild will be in full swing.

We will all go back to being the pessimistic ****-stick Royals fan we remember (I think it's already happened to me).


Dumb post is dumb.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13549271)
I think if you look at recent years, someone like Herrera will probably bring back an A-ball prospect or two, probably a decent younger player in someone's top 15. But it all depends on who you match up with though so it's hard to predict. Another option is doing a deal where you pair someone like Moose and Herrera together, if you can match up with someone. White Sox did that last year with Frazier and Robertson and got a decent return.


I think Herrera is the best of the rental chips. Not sure 2/3 of a season of a reliever - even one with an elite history pitching as well as Herrera - is enough on its own to warrant a top 100 piece back, depends on market. But I think you could get a piece back in the fringes of the 100. That’s helpful.

Moustakas’ only potential landing spot really seems to be Atlanta, barring an injury to another contender.

And as for Merrifield and Duffy... both stocks are a little down right now. Merrifield’s start is good in that he has continue to show good SLG and exit velocity. Needs to pick his average back up a bit to get his value up.

That’s a tough spot. To move either of them - or Perez - the return needs to be bullet proof... and I’m not sure those type of returns are out there anymore.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-08-2018 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13549359)
Dumb post is dumb.

Good to see tongue in cheek posts are not lost on you. ROFL

BWillie 05-08-2018 02:12 PM

Minor league update

AAA
Adalberto "Raul" Mondesi .323 avg, .968 OPS, 2 HR, 31 ABs
Bubba Starling .281 avg, .687 OPS, 0 HR, 32 AB
Hunter Dozier .242 avg, .703 OPS, 1 HR, 99 AB
Josh Staumont 0.68 ERA, 13 IP
Richard Lovelady 3.75, 12 IP

AA
Nicky Lopez .284 avg, .721 OPS, 0 HR, 109 AB
Donnie Dewees .241 avg, .648 OPS, 0 HR, 112 AB
Samir Duenez .238 avg, .753 OPS, 5 HR, 105 AB
Scott Blewett 4.4 ERA 30.2 IP
Foster Griffin 3.72 ERA, 29 IP

A+ (Wilmington Blue Rocks)
DJ Burt .377 avg, .896 OPS, 0 HR, 16 SB, 53 AB
Khalil Lee .247 avg, .806 OPS, 2 HR, 6 SB, 93 AB
Meibrys Viloria .228 avg, .646 OPS, 1 HR, 79 AB

A (Lexington)
Seuly Matias .278 avg, .960 OPS, 8 HR, 90 AB
Nick Pratto .267 avg, .757 OPS, 4 HR, 105 AB
MJ Melendez .237 avg, .832 OPS, 3 HR, 76 OPS
Michael Gigliotti out for season with ACL
Daniel Tillo 3.68 ERA, 29 IP
Nolan Watson 6.33 ERA, 27 IP

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-08-2018 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13550028)
DJ Burt .377 avg, .896 OPS, 0 HR, 16 SB, 53 AB

Holy cow.

BWillie 05-08-2018 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 13550055)
Holy cow.

Dude is a 4th round pick. DJ Burt. Could eventually be someone, had a disappointing batting avg last year, and has no power but tons of walks and SBs

jimidollar 05-08-2018 05:11 PM

Soler striking early. 2 run bomb.

jimidollar 05-08-2018 05:14 PM

Holy shit! Soler, Moose, Sal=back to back to back!

ChiTown 05-08-2018 05:15 PM

Wow! Awesome

ChiTown 05-08-2018 05:20 PM

ROFL- 4 HRS

7-0, no outs. Pitcher is gone

jimidollar 05-08-2018 05:21 PM

Gordon 3 run bomb! 7-0 Royals in the first with no outs. HAHAHA!!

WhawhaWhat 05-08-2018 05:21 PM

Not Dylan Bundy's best day. **** the Orioles and their fans anyways.

Titty Meat 05-08-2018 05:21 PM

Soooo how bout Soler?

GloryDayz 05-08-2018 05:23 PM

:clap:

KCUnited 05-08-2018 05:28 PM

Approaching Vin Mazzaro levels here.

jimidollar 05-08-2018 05:30 PM

9-0 Royals. One out in the first!

GloryDayz 05-08-2018 05:31 PM

:thumb:

jimidollar 05-08-2018 05:31 PM

Duffy might finally get a win tonight!

KChiefs1 05-08-2018 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimidollar (Post 13550290)
Duffy might finally get a win tonight!



Let’s not go crazy.

ChiTown 05-08-2018 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimidollar (Post 13550290)
Duffy might finally get a win tonight!

Ha. It would be his first win since Sept of 17:D

GloryDayz 05-08-2018 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13550296)
Let’s not go crazy.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

big nasty kcnut 05-08-2018 05:40 PM

Stop being debbie downers! I think this team can contend for a playoff spot. Bullpen needs to be fixed but everything else is good.

PHOG 05-08-2018 05:43 PM

WTF just tuned in, :eek: :clap:

kstater 05-08-2018 05:44 PM

Well that escalated quickly

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ChiefsCountry 05-08-2018 05:46 PM

**** Jason La Canfora

KCUnited 05-08-2018 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 13550285)
Approaching Vin Mazzaro levels here.

Bundy is the first pitcher in the modern era to give up 4 homers before recording an out.

Jerok 05-08-2018 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13550307)
**** Jason La Canfora

Yes! Loved when Danny Parkins hung up on the twat on 610

srvy 05-08-2018 05:55 PM

It appears we got something with this Soler.

Is it possible Gordon listened to someone and was fixed? Fingers crossed.

ChiefsCountry 05-08-2018 05:59 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The last time the Royals scored 10 runs in the first inning was 2006 against Cleveland. The Royals wound up losing 15-13.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/993997967551016960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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siberian khatru 05-08-2018 05:59 PM

If Duffy can’t hold this lead he needs to go home. Seriously.

ChiefsCountry 05-08-2018 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13550320)
Is it possible Gordon listened to someone and was fixed? Fingers crossed.

Healthy for once.

ChiefsCountry 05-08-2018 06:03 PM

That's crazy that one fan caught 3 home run balls tonight.

Dartgod 05-08-2018 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 13550301)
Stop being debbie downers! I think this team can contend for a playoff spot. Bullpen needs to be fixed but everything else is good.

Get back with me when we start beating good teams.

cabletech94 05-08-2018 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13550326)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The last time the Royals scored 10 runs in the first inning was 2006 against Cleveland. The Royals wound up losing 15-13.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/993997967551016960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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In 10 innings btw.

SAUTO 05-08-2018 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13550334)
That's crazy that one fan caught 3 home run balls tonight.

For sure

Discuss Thrower 05-08-2018 07:08 PM

THESE O'S AINT ROYAL

duncan_idaho 05-08-2018 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13550028)
Minor league update

AAA
Adalberto "Raul" Mondesi .323 avg, .968 OPS, 2 HR, 31 ABs
Bubba Starling .281 avg, .687 OPS, 0 HR, 32 AB
Hunter Dozier .242 avg, .703 OPS, 1 HR, 99 AB
Josh Staumont 0.68 ERA, 13 IP
Richard Lovelady 3.75, 12 IP

AA
Nicky Lopez .284 avg, .721 OPS, 0 HR, 109 AB
Donnie Dewees .241 avg, .648 OPS, 0 HR, 112 AB
Samir Duenez .238 avg, .753 OPS, 5 HR, 105 AB
Scott Blewett 4.4 ERA 30.2 IP
Foster Griffin 3.72 ERA, 29 IP

A+ (Wilmington Blue Rocks)
DJ Burt .377 avg, .896 OPS, 0 HR, 16 SB, 53 AB
Khalil Lee .247 avg, .806 OPS, 2 HR, 6 SB, 93 AB
Meibrys Viloria .228 avg, .646 OPS, 1 HR, 79 AB

A (Lexington)
Seuly Matias .278 avg, .960 OPS, 8 HR, 90 AB
Nick Pratto .267 avg, .757 OPS, 4 HR, 105 AB
MJ Melendez .237 avg, .832 OPS, 3 HR, 76 OPS
Michael Gigliotti out for season with ACL
Daniel Tillo 3.68 ERA, 29 IP
Nolan Watson 6.33 ERA, 27 IP


It’s worth noting Staumont has 28K and 10 BB in 13 1/3 IP.

Rudy Martin is also interesting. He’s only 5-7, but has great OBP and SB skills. 14 bags in 23 games, .433 OBP (22 walks). He’s also at Wilmington. They drafted him as a 2B but he’s now playing LF.

FringeNC 05-08-2018 07:58 PM

If someone had told you collectively Moose, Soler, and Gordon would have well over a .900 OPS, and Junis would be pitching really well, and Herrera would be unhittable...would you believe we'd be 11 games under?

BWillie 05-08-2018 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13550402)
THESE O'S AINT ROYAL

I was cutting some tile for my basement kitchen, so I threw on a work shirt which was this exact shirt. Bought it after J Guts punked the Os in the playoffs. Forgot all about this game and turned it on and it was 15 to 1.

BWillie 05-08-2018 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 13550452)
If someone had told you collectively Moose, Soler, and Gordon would have well over a .900 OPS, and Junis would be pitching really well, and Herrera would be unhittable...would you believe we'd be 11 games under?

Probably some blame for someone for letting Maurer, Grimm and Boyer play significant bullpen roles to start the year. Me and many others saw the bullpen issues coming plain as day. Its Ned and Daytons fault but mainly Ned for utilizing them instead of other options.

siberian khatru 05-08-2018 08:15 PM

The ump is squeezing Blaine Boyer in the ninth inning of a 15-3 game

BWillie 05-08-2018 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13550470)
The ump is squeezing Blaine Boyer in the ninth inning of a 15-3 game

This is a perfect game to utilize Blaine Boyer. Up 12 runs in the 9th.

siberian khatru 05-08-2018 08:22 PM

Boyer had a nice little three-game stretch where he was effective, but the rest of the time ...

gblowfish 05-08-2018 08:23 PM

They need to DFA this POS

ChiTown 05-08-2018 08:28 PM

Boyer is a dog ****er. Worthless

Bufkin 05-08-2018 08:34 PM

So Alex Gordon is back, right?

Sure-Oz 05-08-2018 08:40 PM

Hope Gordon is back...this is fun watching him at least be a decent player again

Molitoth 05-08-2018 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13550329)
Healthy for once.

Hahahah.

Hahahah

Wait.... Yep


Hahahahah

tk13 05-08-2018 09:31 PM

The Brewers beat the Indians tonight, so every team in the AL Central now has a losing record. That's pretty ugly for being almost at the quarter mark. The Twins are actually hot right now and they're still 15-17.

BigCatDaddy 05-09-2018 06:27 AM

If things continue to trend this way is Boni the DH when he gets back?

WhawhaWhat 05-09-2018 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13550571)
The Brewers beat the Indians tonight, so every team in the AL Central now has a losing record. That's pretty ugly for being almost at the quarter mark. The Twins are actually hot right now and they're still 15-17.

The AL Central may put a sub .500 into the playoffs. Probably not but it would be fun to see the baseball talking heads meltdown.

They are a bad bunch of baseball teams.

Why Not? 05-09-2018 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13550756)
The AL Central may put a sub .500 into the playoffs. Probably not but it would be fun to see the baseball talking heads meltdown.

They are a bad bunch of baseball teams.

Indians will fatten up on games against the rest of the division soon enough. They're certainly not great but will still win into the high 80's at least.

RockChalk 05-09-2018 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13550470)
The ump is squeezing Blaine Boyer in the ninth inning of a 15-3 game

Disagree. He's just shitty

WhawhaWhat 05-09-2018 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 13550803)
Disagree. He's just shitty

The ump did have a pretty tight strikezone.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/...ype=2&s_type=7

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/...ype=3&s_type=7

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-09-2018 07:49 AM

Man he did not wanna give that low strike

siberian khatru 05-09-2018 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 13550803)
Disagree. He's just shitty

Of course he's shitty. There's no argument about that.

But on the first hitter, when that comment was made, two pitches called balls were right on the edge of the strike zone. You'd think at 15-3 in the 9th everyone involved, including the ump, would be looking to wrap things up as soon as possible.

RockChalk 05-09-2018 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13550841)
Of course he's shitty. There's no argument about that.

But on the first hitter, when that comment was made, two pitches called balls were right on the edge of the strike zone. You'd think at 15-3 in the 9th everyone involved, including the ump, would be looking to wrap things up as soon as possible.

Oh I know. I agree with you on the first batter, but Boyer was so frustrating to watch last night. The game was 15-3, both teams just wanted to go home, and he's out there just trying to nibble the corners and bottom part of the zone, which was not being given all night.

I'm also sick of watching him come into games.

Chiefspants 05-10-2018 12:17 PM

Nick Ahmed hit an Inside the Parker yesterday. Watch and visualize the outcome had Gordo been waved home (still think he's out by 30 feet).


https://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam...sset_2500K.mp4

gblowfish 05-10-2018 12:25 PM

Jon Jay needs to be the guy released when Boni comes back from his suspension. I've watched him strike out as the last batter twice in the last week with the tying run on third in the 9th inning. He cannot clutch hit. Period. And he has the longest no homer streak of any active MLB player. And he's a shitty outfielder. He's Emil Brown. Cut him.

BigCatDaddy 05-10-2018 09:32 PM

Soler now 12th in OPS. Maybe on his way to being the best position player since Brett?

Chiefspants 05-10-2018 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13553279)
Soler now 12th in OPS. Maybe on his way to being the best position player since Brett?

GMDM needs to be involved in intially despised Wade Davis trades more often.

DeepSouth 05-11-2018 07:22 AM

The Royals released Seth Maness yesterday.

https://www.royalsreview.com/2018/5/...y-11-2018-smb3

ChiTown 05-11-2018 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13553279)
Soler now 12th in OPS. Maybe on his way to being the best position player since Brett?

You might want to pump the brakes just a little bit. lol

RockChalk 05-11-2018 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 13553453)
You might want to pump the brakes just a little bit. lol

What??? 37 games isn't a big enough sample size for you?

I mean, Patrick Mahomes had one pretty good start against a terrible Denver team who happened to bench most of their good players, yet 75% of this board would enshrine him into the HOF today.

Calculated, well thought-out, rational takes aren't exactly a hallmark of CP. :D

BigCatDaddy 05-11-2018 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 13553453)
You might want to pump the brakes just a little bit. lol

Just going off potential and early performance. Also the standard isnt THAT high. Gordo, Dye, and Cain all solid 3-4 year runs but we arent talking all time baseball greats

BigCatDaddy 05-11-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 13553456)
What??? 37 games isn't a big enough sample size for you?

I mean, Patrick Mahomes had one pretty good start against a terrible Denver team who happened to bench most of their good players, yet 75% of this board would enshrine him into the HOF today.

Calculated, well thought-out, rational takes aren't exactly a hallmark of CP. :D

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