It's one of the strangest things I've seen...the local media actively rallying the city against it's star players. Truly Bizarre.

In the past KCTV5 would have simply turned that recording over to the DA...and protected the Chiefs. Instead, they used it for ratings...just like the DA created a local media circus. They knew damn well what they were doing...destroying their lives for clicks.

The media is directly responsible for Hunt getting released and now, potentially, Hill. They created the pressure on CHunt...

Its to the point that I dont give a **** about the NFL anymore...it used to be entertainment...now its a bludgeoning tool used to force fake morality down my throat. I dont care about Hill's family problems...at all.

So far I've given Hill the benefit of the doubt because I don't like the MSM and their SJW reporters editorializing and then calling said editorials simple news articles, and I also understand how Family Court/CPS is often corrupt to the point where they traffic in kids. Don't believe me, do research...………….often the worst place a kid can end up is in the State's control.

But, I will say this: If Hill did beat his pregnant GF and his Son then he likely doesn't feel empathy. Which means he is probably either Sociopath or a Psychopath. Which means he can not be reformed, he may learn some behavior to get what he wants in the short term, but he will default to seeing his Wife/GF/Children as objects and have no empathy towards them or any other human being. If I were the Chiefs I would pay for a really good evaluation of his psychological makeup (if they haven't already). If he is psychopathic or sociopathic...………..then they'll need to part ways with him at some point and certainly not invest a huge contract on him.

A lot of fail here.

1 - We have no idea if this was when the arm was broken or what actually happened.

2 - She recorded this for her kid's protection. She's thinking longterm.

3. She's only guilty of being a battered gf

4. She'll get her kid back

5. Only way to solve this for Hill is no more visiting rights for these 3 kids and get a vasectomy so he can't father any more.

Cusp or no cusp, it certainly "feels" like somebody threw chum in the water.

As for me, I admire anyone willing to view this situation objectively. People don't benefit from layer upon layer of injustice. Wrongs don't cancel each other out.

Meanwhile, did you know ...

A group of peacocks is called an "ostentation"? And ...

A group of iguanas is called a "slaughter"? And ...

A group of hedgehogs is called a "prickle"? And ...

A group of vultures is called a "wake"?

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How about this angle...….she never dreamed anything bad would happen to the kid when she told him to go downstairs and face the music!!! Because, in reality, Tyreek is not the monster he is being made out to be!!!!

**** your pitchfork!

Not sure why some fans are crying about the media. Nobody from the media put a gun to Hill's head and forced him to beat his fiance and little kid.

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Very True. But I hope you do understand "the pre-gotcha" mentality of the media which always comes first nowadays as opposed to reporting the actual facts when they are revealed.

He incriminated himself my friend. What more do you need?

Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

It's semantics, friend! For all we really know the kid could have fallen and broke his arm. The chest punches could just be back handed slaps.

The woman is not a nun. Tyreek, is not a saint. Big difference between sparing the rod and beating your kid...…….NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE WHAT HAPPENED!

I need whatever the DA needs: evidence. He hasn’t charged Tyreekbyet. Perhaps you know the law better than he?

You know, if the kid fell and broke his arm...…. even if Tyreek used chest punches as a form of discipline he shouldn't lose his job! I doubt he punched the kid as hard as he could; he would have broken his breast bone!

Who is anybody to tell a father how to discipline his kids? This has AP written all over it. Suspend him 8 games and get him counseling.....as a CHIEF!

He may get conseling or go to jail but he won't be a Chief. The media hate him now. Worse than before.

I'm afraid......you may be right...

Hate sells...they know it. Public Crucifixion is big business.

If they had their way..they would tie Hill to a post and sell stones. Anything to turn a buck...

It's tragic what this woman and child have suffered through at the hands of Hill. What's even more tragic is that there are so many who will continue to enable that behavior by defending him and minimizing his actions. Because all that matters to them are winning football games. But we all know that if this were a major player on a rival team, those same people would be singing a completely different tune after what we've already heard on the recording and past history. Just a whole lot of people with zero integrity. Sad.

Uhh, love him or hate him, I think Hill has played his last snap as a Chief. This isn't going away.

At the NFL 360 tent they can have

a mock child and you can see how fast you can break their arm

A switch to see how many lashes to whip a nut out of your sons scrotum

Couple of white bitches to slap around and rape

Maybe even a shooting range so you can get the experience of rollin with your peeps and clubbing

Get the real feel of the NFL

Pick up a NFL Licensed wife beater with your favorite teams Logo

Whatever helps you sleep at night

Best case scenario is that we don't cut him and he serves a long suspension. Then midway through the season, we get him back fresh and line him and Hardway up on opposite sides of the formation.

But you're probably right, this smells like one of those things the SJW ****s won't let go of until he's been destroyed.

Great..the woman is always the victim. Oh how poor, poor Crystal has suffered "at the hands of Hill". She uses a belt on Hill jr.

Get out of here with the melodramatic shit...the girl is ****ing crazy....not only that, she CHOSE the stay with him. They are toxic, dysfunctional COUPLE.

and at this point, she knows exactly how to trigger him and vice-versa. It takes two to create a colossal shit-storm like this...they feed each others destruction.

If you haven't seen her...she's smoking hot, young and crazy. There is a HUGE demand for this type of woman...she could get any guy she wants.

If they could just get the **** out of each other's life...they might end up realizing how terrible they were for each other...and possibly get on to a functional life free of unnecessary drama.

He beat her while she was pregnant.

Wow.. You really are a piece of shit.

Let me guess you beat your wife too and say afterwards 'Well she is still with me. She is crazy bitch who deserves it. We are a couple.'

Victim-blaming ftw. Cuz winning football games is the most imprtant thing, amirite?

Yeah, how dare the SJW ****s don’t condone likely child abuse from a dude who beat his pregnant girl. Disgusting people.

There’s something wrong with you. If you’re not already seeing a therapist, please look into it.

He didn’t say that. Why are you guessing moron?

Yes..and I imagine if they look a public microscope to all the things you've done in your life... when people arent looking...you would come out looking like Jesus.

The only difference is you arent interesting enough for anyone to give a shit.

"Judge not, lest be judged"

"Jesus follows up his warning against judgment with an explanation—we will all be judged by the same measure that we use. If we cannot hold to the standard we use, we have no business applying that standard to others."

Pete Rose got banned for life from MLB for gambling on the game.

Do you think being pregnant stops a woman who is a complete manipulative psycho bitch from being a complete manipulative psycho bitch?

None of us know these people. Maybe Hill is just a vicious, violent thug and she's as sweet as honey and pure as the driven snow. But I seriously doubt it. I have known women who were so vile, unhinged and utterly crazy that they drove otherwise good and decent men to knock the shit out of them, and believe me, they earned those beatings. Of course, they aren't like that all the time; you fall in love with the flipside and the BOOM here comes the raging lunatic, often out of nowhere and for no good reason. Many of you seem to think this isn't possible, and that you could never be pushed to that point. Good for you if you've never been trapped in a relationship with one. But I say you're like somebody who's never been badly burned not understanding why somebody who has been is scared of fire. Try walking a mile in that guy's shoes. Christ, have you never been pushed to your breaking point and snapped? Doesn't make you the devil; it just means that you're human. Most people can get past the horrible things they do in those moments. Sometimes, they don't.

Look - I added another gushing vag to my collection!

I'm going to have clear some more shelf space if this keeps us.

Did I say he said that in my post? Your reading comprehension skills arent the best are they?

Dude ...

You're one of my favorite posters and an all-time great Planeteer. But do you really believe this statement is true?

This hurt my heart, man.

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Yeah, no. Can't say I've been mad enough to beat a pregnant woman carrying my child and I'd have probably ditched her long before it got to that point.

They're BOTH clearly ****ed in the head considering she recorded that audio in the first place as some kind of blackmail/insurance for whatever reason. Doesn't absolve Hill of punching and choking her while she was pregnant. That's just ridiculous.

Says the guy who was judging Robert Kraft and calling him every name in the book and wanted him banned from the league for getting a handjob by a prostitute

You are so full of shit. Only reason you on here are defending Tyreek Hill is because he is a star WR for the Chiefs. If he played for the Pats you'd want him suspended for the year.

**** outta here with your flip flop you ****ing hypocrite.

They said he gambled on his own team. He denies it.

No chit man, that's human nature! You're real smart!!!!!

He doesn't deny it. He claims he never bet against his team.

Edit this reply please.....makes no sense!

I'm not justifying what he did...at all. ..but will use this as an exercise in perception.

I'd imagine the mental image most people created when they first heard of this situation...was she was about to burst and he was punching her basketball size stomach.

The reality is she was 8 weeks pregnant and women dont begin to show signs until around 12-16 weeks.

Be honest...is the image you mentally created one of him punching a fully formed infant in her womb? Did you create the worst possible image of the situation without knowing the facts? If you did...you need to think why?

It a terrible situation, either way...but that isn't the point of what I just pointed out.

He.

Does.

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Deny.

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Better?

Did you really just try to make the point that she wasn't that far along so therefore it's not as bad?

Well hell, everyone knows he bet on baseball! The point is the league said he bet on his own team, that's why the lifetime ban. If the league thought he only bet on other teams games.....he would be in Cooperstown!!!! Digest what you read!

He was caught red handed on the phone making bets when he was a coach! Old news! He denies betting on his own team, for obvious reasons!

Do you understand the difference between for and against?

You originally said that he denies betting on his own team. This is why its an important question.

EDIT: I'll spell it out for you since you seem a little slow in the head. Pete Rose has fully admitted to betting on the Reds... to win.

I'm holding Kraft to the same standard I live...I dont give public image money to non-profit sex-trafficking causes then immediately go to a place that was suspected of sex-trafficking. I dont need sex slaves and people held in bondage to get my jollies. The fact you rationalize it...says you shouldn't say a ****ing word about Hill...or anyone else.

You are using a Red Herring tactic...and there is video evidence of Kraft doing this. The DA couldn't prove anything...and until Hill is convicted of maliciously injuring his child with premeditated intent...I reserve the right to wait until it plays out. The public court of immediate guilt without proof... and the half-assed opinions of blood thirsty sheeple inst enough for me...

Teicher: " Kansas City Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt says the team will make the "right decision ... at the right time" regarding wide receiver Tyreek Hill."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...-decision-hill

Didn't they say the same shit about the Hunt situation? It took them hours after the Hunt video dropped to figure out he lied to them about his involvement before releasing him. Coincidentally when they figured that out it was mere seconds after the NFL announced he was being placed on the exempt list.

I don't believe this:

"That goes back to the ongoing investigation with Tyreek and really our ability to get any information," Hunt said Saturday in explaining the difference between the two situations. "That audio was really among the first information we had received on the investigation."

Even that twitter women -- forget her name -- who got a lot of this started indicated that the NFL got involved early. I think the release of the tape may have caught the Chiefs by surprise, and frankly, I'd ban KCTV5 from Arrowhead for not notifying them about the tape (if they didn't). I think the local media now has it in for the Chiefs.

Yeah, now that you mention it, he did say he bet on his own team to win, years after being caught on the phone. At that point though the league said bye forever.

BTW, I'm a Pete Rose fan!

Pete rose bet against his team by choosing to not bet on certain days. He is completely full of shit and absolutely deserves a lifetime ban.

Maybe you're just too dense to understand what I was pointing out...and I clarified that wasn't my intent.

It was an exercise to see, if people are being honest, if their mind formed the worst possible image of the situation.

Answer the question...was the initial image you formed one of her being fully pregnant? If it was...can you admit your interpretation of the situation was not accurate?

It's relevant as it pertains to how people form their opinions when they have no visual evidence...just words. How words, arranged in the proper way and distributed with certain inflection can steer people to a conclusion.

Nobody knows anything about the Hills actual situation other than reporters "publicly steering" peoples thoughts where they want them.

Back to Tyreek...there isn't a video of the crime like Hunt's. It's really all semantics. The audio doesn't prove squat and won't hold up in court.

What pisses me off about the media and the league is the pressuring of Clark Hunt to release Tyreek. And then turn a blind eye when another team signs him. If I were Clark I'd just keep him and get him counseling. That's all any other team will do for him.

Are you sure about that? It's been a long time and most of the info came out in bits and pieces years after the fact.

Wtf does this even mean?

Are you saying that he should be banned not because he didn't bet on his team but because he didn't bet on his team to win every game? I'm not even sure if he didn't bet on every game when he was betting, but to say he should be banned because there's a possibility he used cognitive reasoning to decide that today might not be a good day to bet on a win and instead not bet at all is just stupid.

I'm not for or against Pete Rose being reinstated and inducted into the hall of fame, but if a single proven steroid users gets inducted then I'll be perfectly for reinstating him because I hold actively cheating the game a bit higher on the no-no list than gambling.

Guy is a billionaire he doesnt need to get sex slaves to get laid. Use a little common sense. Again, there was no evidence of sex trafficking so you can stop with the sex slave comments. if he did get sex slaves and he knew about it id be furious and want him punished. But that wasn't the case now was it?

All im saying is dont tell me and others not to judge when you do the same thing. You make yourself look like an idiot.

What are we saying here?

I'm simply saying that I believe the Chiefs are waiting to see if the NFL will slap him with an infraction that will prevent him from hurting, as in playing against the Chiefs, in the near future before releasing him. I don't think he'll ever play another down for the Chiefs one way or another. They said when they drafted him they were giving him a 2nd chance and after the Kareem Hunt situation I would love to hear the justification for keep Hill if that ends up being the case.

Kraft is a highly educated 75 year old man...he is WELL aware of his actions.

Dont start comparing this to a 25 year old Hill..."Bobby" has been alive 3 times longer. He's had a lifetime time to make mistakes and learn from them....he's just an evil **** with no empathy at this point.

I'll tell you a little story.

I was visiting an ex-Navy buddy of mine and his wife one day. He was a good guy. She was a fiery redhead, a bit on the loud and bitchy side, and I had on prior occasions seen her punch him in the arm, slap him upside the head, but in a playful way. Anyway, he made a comment that set her off. It was so minor I can't even remember what he said, but she immediately hit him in the face - HARD. Hard enough that his cheek instantly turned red and puffed up. I'll never forget the look on his face. Then she tried to hit him again, but he blocked the next one. And the next one. He backed away from her, imploring her to stop. She kept coming, and kept hitting him. She was short, but she was stocky and solid, and strong. And nuts. And she was wailing on him for real. It was like he was getting his ass kicked by an angry fire hydrant. Then she picked up a lamp and hit him with that, breaking it in the process. Finally he had had enough and clocked her. Then she started screaming "YOU HIT ME! YOU HIT ME! I'M CALLING THE POLICE!" and stormed out. And mind you, this all happened right in front of me. Normally crazy only strikes in private, but not that day. I just sat there stunned. He had told me before that she had a terrible temper and could get violent, but I didn't believe him. Well, after that I believed him. Holy shit.

I stayed for a while in case the cops showed, so I could back him up if needed. They didn't show, and she didn't come back, so I left. They divorced not long after that, and about a year later he married a nice, sane, attractive blonde who had a baby with Down Syndrome. He adopted the baby, and they had a happy, violence free marriage.

So you have a nice guy who is decent enough to adopt a severely reeruned child and raise her as his own, but yes, I once saw hit a woman. Does that make him Satan? According to some people posting in this thread, I guess so. :shake:

I can't believe some of you are defending Tyreek at this juncture.

I was all for it before the indication that he most likely assaulted his girlfriend again, but now?

Occam's razor says this guy beat his pregnant GF, slapped the kid around and broke his arm and now beat his GF again.

He's human trash. Suspend him for the remainder of his Chiefs contract and then kick him out the door and who gives a ****.

Sounds like your dude punched her one time after he'd had enough of her shit. That's more in line with what Hunt and Clark did. ****ing stupid, and a regretful mistake, but at least I can understand it.

Hill put his girl in the hospital after punching her in the face and stomach and choking her. If the allegations are true, he's done similar violence a 3 year old.

He didn't beat his girlfriend again....total hoax!

Just can't see Tyreek hurting the kid on purpose.

If he's released she better run for the hills

This monologue defending the actions of attacking a pregnant woman are completely in line with your character. I admire your consistency.

No Way, he should be enshrined and afforded all the entitlements of being one of Baseballs Greatest.

All the parallels are just eerie.

Tyreek’s bitch went apeshit on him and started beating him with her pregnant belly... she broke her kid’s arm over Tyreek’s head...

I assume it’s only a matter of time before Tyreek marries your mom and adopts you.

Not often I agree with this guy - but he's right. The mental gymnastics and victim blaming going on here is nuts.

He probably hit her more than that - he just did it one time when I was there. But I would imagine the circumstances were generally the same. It's not the kind of thing a guy's going to advertise - being married to someone so mean and crazy that you have to knock the shit out of her to get her to stop beating on you.

My buddy was just a regular guy - not a top level athlete in peak physical condition with an alpha mentality. A punch from my friend won't put you in the hospital - Hill's a different animal.

Again, despite what some of the judgmental ****ing morons here seem to think, I'm not defending his actions, especially with the child. All I'm saying is I've known people and seen things in my life that give me a more developed perspective on how these things can happen. Tyreek sure as hell isn't Ward Cleaver, but Crystal damn sure ain't June.

Just curious...what do you think led up to that altercation? I'm being serious.

Was she cooking him a nice meal..he came home angry and just started punching her?

What could have happened to trigger a situation like that...what did she say to him right before it happened? These are the things we never know...and thus dont have a clear idea to the chain of events that led to a physical altercation.

People dont take into account the role Crystal played prior...but because she's female, she's publicly exonerated of any accountability. Emotional abuse is abuse too...and women are inherent experts at knowing the exact button to push in a man.

This white knight mentality is an antiquated concept...women can be just as evil as men....and in some instances more so.

Yep, my weepy **** collection will definitely require more shelf space.

Bring your friends, ladies. I've got plenty of room.

I don't read here much anymore or post because I am sure I will piss some sensitive mod off but...

Tyreek is scum if this all went down the way it's being described but Tyreek is a once in a generation player and I bet when he gets cut, he will lay low until about the middle of next season when someone one will bring him in because he is now a changed man and all will be forgotten because he is a superstar. ... A mediocre player would never get another look from anyone but a superstar will get another chance.

If I offended a sensitive mod with this post I apologize in advance.

Bye again

If he's released she'd better run From the Hills.

Reek has been replaced in this draft.

I like what we did as well. But, it’s a bit premature to assume his production for at least 2019 has been replaced.

Umm...no he hasn't. Hill is a generational talent...KC drafted a fast WR. There are fast WRs drafted every year..

No one is offended....you are exactly right. The NFL won't ban him for life so why should the Chiefs?

No one yet knows how bad his child rearing skills truly are...a lot of media, and Planeteers, make mountains out of mole hills! Keep him, counsel him, and then play him. Just like the next team would...

Because the appropriate response to evil is more evil.

By some miracle, if Tyreek is able to play for the Chiefs this year or even next year, this offense will be unstoppable!

No chance. And the fact some of you people are still wanting to see this guy in your team's uniform after everything that's come out this week is worrisome. :shake: