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I dont think Taylor will even be the first RB taken in round 2. I have a feeling Swift may go next and possibly at 34 to Indy who wanted CEH.
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I think his welcome has worn out. |
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I'd be a dick too. |
You cant as a GM overlook those fumbles. Putting the ball on the ground cancels out any advantage you had in speed. Andy for damn sure won't tolerate it! He loves Shady but the fumbles ended any chance at multiple carries down the stretch run.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/JDOW4qiin8">pic.twitter.com/JDOW4qiin8</a></p>— Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1253793544688537607?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Has DJLN come down on this yet? I haven’t seen the post
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If there were some poorly-constructed artificial intelligence creation on CP that only had access to statistics found on the internet but couldn’t actually watch video, I would name it Ubeja.
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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/we_qHxD6C-4" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> he won the Doak Walker award for a reason. Over 4000 yards rushing in two seasons......wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wSuz2gy_2FQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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So this guy played slot receiver in high school? Everything I learn about him each day makes me like him more.
He’s definitely playing some receiver and I’d bet he will play in the slot too. That’s why I liked Antonio Gibson so much. Awesome <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With the final pick in the first round the Super Bowl Champs added another weapon for Patrick Mahomes. Wait till you hear who GM Brett Veach and Andy Reid compared LSU RB Clyde Edwards-Hilaire to. This just may be a perfect fit between player and scheme. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nflnetwork?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/UMRbSx2cgw">pic.twitter.com/UMRbSx2cgw</a></p>— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1253792083082506240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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On his team, he had the Heisman Trophy winner. He had the Bilitnekoff Award winner. He had the Thorpe Award winner. And his teammates voted him the MVP. Think about that. Aside from his impressive stats against the best competition in college football, his teammates thought enough of his holistic body of work to vote him MVP on one of the most loaded college football teams we've seen. As per always, you completely lose sight of the intangibles and what doesn't fit neatly in your spreadsheet, Comrade Ubeja. You need to be decommissioned immediately. |
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What about.....over 2000 yards rushing 21 TD;s....last season don't you understand? How many RB's run a 4.3 40, well? His teammates like CEH....who cares. Dude, a FIRST ROUND draft pick on .....well he can catch the ball........please! |
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Gee, I wonder who padded stats against average talent and who kicked ****ing ass against NFL talent EVERY week.
Get that other RB's shit out of OUR guy's thread. |
Fantasy Football (especially PPR leagues) already foaming at the mouth over Clydro.
Kansas City Clyde: Edwards-Helaire Becomes Slam Dunk 1.01 In Dynasty Rookie Drafts April 24, 2020 Clyde Edwards-Helaire: Rookie Draft 1.01 When writing my first article for YardsPerFantasy, I never imagined the NFL would think as highly of Clyde Edwards-Helaire (CEH) as I did. However, when Andy Reid got on the clock with the 32nd overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, he saw nothing but a Brian Westbrook clone in CEH. That comparison should vault him to the top of dynasty rookie drafts this summer. Pairing Reid with Edward-Helaire makes the young back a clear 1.01 in dynasty rookie drafts. Westbrook was a shorter back with good weight, faster in shoulder pads than on a track, and could explode through holes. Also, you can’t leave out his pass-catching ability. If you weren’t paying attention, I basically just described Andy Reid’s type. Westbrook and Kareem Hunt both fit that mold. When Reid turned on the LSU tape, he saw someone better. For Clyde Edwards-Helaire Touches = Production Boy, there will be touches funneling to CEH in Kansas City. Since 2003, Reid has proved year after year that when he finds his bell-cow, he’s going to feed him the ball. In Philadelphia, Brian Westbrook averaged 265 touches per year, and LeSean McCoy averaged 264 touches per year. Since arriving in Kansas City in 2013, Reid has deployed five different lead backs who averaged 239 touches per year in that role. Andy Reid also has a propensity for leading potent offenses. Since 2013, Kansas City has ranked outside the top-10 in points scored only twice. It also doesn’t hurt that they have the fastest man in the NFL playing WR, a top-three TE, and some guy named Patrick Mahomes at QB. When All Else Fails, Trust Draft Capital Draft capital is everything in the NFL, especially at the RB position. Whether it’s purposeful or involuntary, NFL head coaches give higher-drafted players more playing time. With RB, the correlation between draft capital and success is the strongest of all skill positions. Any time a RB goes in the first round, we MUST pay attention. As the NFL devalues the position with limited second contract opportunities, we must hammer the RB position early and often in dynasty leagues. CEH is the sure-fire, slam dunk rookie 1.01 in dynasty rookie drafts. He has the draft capital, talent, and a perfect team fit. It was speculated that whoever Kansas City drafted at RB would vault to the top of rookie drafts this summer. Every now and then, speculation is spot on. https://yardsperfantasy.com/dynasty-...ankings-value/ |
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Hell, Steve Van Buren!!!!! |
Here's how it's going to go...
CEH is going to be a good NFL RB, but Jonathan Taylor will a better one. See ya! |
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No thanks. |
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How is it possible that you're this ****ing stupid? Taylor played in far inferior competition, and was a bell-cow 30 carry a game guy for like 4 years. He's got a faster 40 time. He's bigger. Helaire played like 2 1/2 years against the most elite competition in college football in a balanced offense that saw his QB go #1 overall and two WR's go in the first round. He fits our system perfectly, and yes, is a polished receiver not only out of the backfield, but the slot. He has experience running a full route tree. He's got elite lateral agility. He's "better than Brian Westbrook" according to Andy ****ing Reid who coached Brian Westbrook. But somehow, you are smarter than Andy Reid, and smarter than Bret Veach because Taylor is bigger and ran a tenth of a second faster in the 40 yard dash in shorts, and while Helaire was less than 100%. How do you possibly not understand that sometimes a player's specific skillset is a great fit, and sometimes it's not? Derrick Henry is bigger, too. Guess what? He'd be a shitty fit for the Chiefs offense. How do you not get this? |
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How about we do this, let's watch what happens before getting carried away with this, ok? |
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Jeremy Maclin Brent Celek LeSean McCoy Travis Kelce Tyreek Hill Kareem Hunt Mecole Hardman Forgive us for trusting the guy who has drafted these weapons instead of you |
Guys, let's all just ignore Ubeja. He's returning to his highest level of trolling, and it's just not worth engaging.
Let's celebrate that we somehow recognize the insanity of the Kansas City Chiefs drafting last because we won the Super Bowl on the strength of our prodigious offense and yet we still saw an epic talent at a position that the most casual of football fans knows is overrated and still took CEH with the pick and that - most importantly - we're the most miserable group of people on the planet at CP and yet we're excited and ecstatic about said pick. That's all that we need to know. |
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Walter Payton Jackson State Jerry Rice Mississippi Valley State Randy Moss Marshall Christian "Nigerian Nightmare" Okoye Azusa Pacific Abner Haynes North Texas State Wilie Lanier Morgan State Kareem Hunt Toledo Terrell Owens Chattanooga Antonio Brown Eastern Michigan' Buck Buchanon Grambling Isacc Bruce Memphis Terry Bradshaw La Tech ,,,,ha! |
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So debating picking CEH with your first pick is a no no, just nod your head agree and follow the flock :rolleyes: |
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Let's watch what happens. |
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That spin move ranks up there with Charles and Sanders- straight up nasty. The defense was in our backfield a LOT last year- Taylor would be dead meat- whereas, CEH spins out of tackles and then gains valuable yards. |
I don’t think many understand the level of impact CEH is going to provide this offense.
This pick is HUGE. |
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I think the combine has been one of the most detrimental aspects of player evaluation, sometimes people are greater than the sum of their parts , and the numbers sometimes clouds evaluators judgments, Tom Brady , Jerry Rice etc
NFL I think is the only big sports that puts so much emphasis it. Wayne Gretzky would not been the number one pick based on metrics alone. |
With his receiving ability we could put him in the slot and move Hill to RB
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LMAO at people who thought we could have gotten him at 63...
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The impression I’m getting from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> head coach Andy Reid is that the team will utilize both Clyde Edwards-Helaire AND Damien WIlliams in their 2020 offense.</p>— Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1253866847667175425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/WillieG___?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WillieG___</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> ‼️</p>— 22 (@Clydro_22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22/status/1253859838997774348?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Fortunately, the Chiefs were at 32. That's basically high 2nd round pick. He runs with instinctive eyes and quick-cut foot speed. He doesn't really have tells or tendencies and can alter the rush track when needed, which makes him so unpredictable for defenses. He's only 21. Had 6.6 YPC on the ground, and was targeted 58 times, caught 55 of them. Edwards-Helaire broke 70 tackles on just 214 carries this season while gaining 782 of his 1,419 yards after contact. If the comp I'm hearing this guy is being compared to either Ray Rice or Murice Jones-Drew, that's a very good comp. |
Pete really needs to go the **** away.
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I simply prefer Taylor over CEH, is that ok? This...STOP THAT, YOU GO WITH CEH GOT IT......hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! I'll go with a two time Doak Walker winner, and the fastest RB in the draft, yep.....no problem, |
dexter wept
<blockquote class="reddit-card" data-card-created="1587795116"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityChiefs/comments/g7m4pl/clyde_edwardshelaire_spin_move_vs_alabama/">Clyde Edwards-Helaire spin move vs Alabama</a> from <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityChiefs">r/KansasCityChiefs</a></blockquote> <script async src="//embed.redditmedia.com/widgets/platform.js" charset="UTF-8"></script> |
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Bowe importing company moving him
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I just watched Andy’s interview after the first round and he says CEH is better than Brian Westbrook which he says is a future hall of famer.
So Andy is saying they see CEH as a future hall of fame quality player. That may be the biggest praise (next to his comments on Mahomes) that I’ve ever heard from him. This kid is going to be very special. |
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Look everyone must agree with every pick we make. Anyone not YIPPPEEEEE is in trouble. So nobody is allowed any other opinions, right? You do know TONS of fans were talking about Taylor going to the Chiefs, right? |
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Taylor is a good player, but he has a lot of miles on his legs. He has tallied 299, 307, and 320 touches, for a total of 926 carries in three years. That is a lot of wear and tear. I'll take the guy who has less wear and tear and his game is tailor-made for what the NFL is now, especially the Chiefs, over a guy who has a lot of wear and tear and is not much of a threat in the passing game. |
Here's another thing y'all have to take into consideration. Whenever you get single coverage with linebackers on that backside, where the Chiefs do a lot of 3 x 1 (3 receivers on one side of the line), it gives them some nice matchups potentially.
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There is no doubt CEH is a serious talent, I simply prefer the more productive, bigger, faster, two time Doak Walker winner. Just like Mel Kiper and a whole gang of others. |
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We really are going to have to deal with this stupid bitch spamming the CEH thread about Taylor, aren't we?
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Just go with CEH YIPPPEEEEE....or else, haha!!!!!!! |
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I thought that CEH ran hurt at the combine. So that 4.6 second 40 time isn't really what he normally runs?
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How about taking a few minutes Google....Jonathan Taylor a Chief....and you'll see it's not just me. This sucks guy....look just agree he was our best decision.....come on man. |
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**** it, live in your little fantasy world punk. Adios~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Hey, ubeja played four years of high school football. Show some respect.
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In the Alabama-LSU game CEH was the best player on the field. It's not even debatable. He truly did it all running and recieving. This pick was a grand slam!! This is the next great Chief running back.
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