We're also about a year away from starting to think about having to pay Karlaftis 100 million aren't we?

There's a difference between a guy like Sneed and a guy like Charvarius. I was a big Charvarius guy, thought he was a very solid CB and loved that we fleeced the Cowboys. But Sneed is a heart-and-soul of the defense type of guy. You absolutely sign a guy like that to a second deal, or in my opinion you're going to have some raised eyebrows in the locker room.

I think guys know it's a business and know that getting a third deal when you're paying a franchise QB is going to be a tough task (a la CJ) - but you've got to sign guys who are as good and as tough as Sneed to a second deal. The dude is a stud, and has more than earned the right to keep playing for the Chiefs.

That's a great point, I was thinking about that Saturday night. Talk about a guy who's had an under-the-radar incredible season. And never (knock on wood) gets hurt.

He's 3 years away, 2 more rookie and then an option so that's a long time in football terms.

LMAO

He's only in year 2. He also already told Tiwsted he wants to be a Chief for life. ****ing relax.

Right.

I mean we're one year closer for GK than we are Rice.

I don't have the energy to worry about ALL those guys already.

Nah, we can start to talk about that sort of thing when these guys extension windows open after year 3. But before that, it's just not worth the headache. that's forever in football years.

Well so did Chris Jones...

True, but Karlaftis just feels like a different kind of dude.

3 years from now this team will not remotely resemble this one, there may be 10-15 guys that are the same, so it isn't even worth it.

Oh yeah, forgot about the 5th year since he went in the 1st.

Veach needs to quit drafting all these studs that are lining themselves up for big second deals...

:bolt:

This is Chris Jones last chance to get paid again, any contract he signs after this one is going to be a serious downgrade in pay due to age.

Perspective changes when it turns to, this is really my last pay day.

That's all well and good if we offered him $18 million.

We offered him $27.5 and he insisted on $30. I mean, last payday or not, it's pretty clear that 'Chief for Life' wasn't at the top of his list of priorities.

The "chief for life" stuff....yeah, don't really care.

If Karlaftis continues this pace, they'll need to alot 100 million to him after next year I'd imagine. It's a future Chiefs deal for sure, but he's gonna be getting that kind of money I'd imagine.

CP will hate it cause you're all tight asses.

Should our asses be loose?

Bolton isn't perfect, but what he does, he does very well. He has a nose for the ball and does not miss many tackles. Those traits can't be understated.

How did Karlaftis play when Jones was out of the lineup? I feel like Jones helps Karlaftis be more effective.

Jones helps the whole DL for sure.

But they're gonna have to learn do play without him.

A lot of people underestimate his ability to be the QB of the defense as well.

Go back a watch all the times he's been the guy telling the young guys where to lineup and what was coming. Karlaftis is one of those guys who benefitted greatly. He's obviously an awesome player in his own right, but Bolton helped get him there fast.

Of course it helps, but Karlaftis didn't just have a double digit sack season simply because of Chris Jones either.

But it's obvious you're just trying to downplay Karlaftis's production like you did Rice, because you're an idiot/troll.

*****The L'Jarius Sneed Thread*****
 

It’ll be Sneeds birthday this Sunday.

I think he’s gonna have a game.

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Sneed just made Tyreek Hill his little bitch. Imagine what he's going to do to this...

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My God, Sneed is going to brutalize him. Show me on this doll where the cornerback touched you.

That's a player? I thought it was a backup dancer for the cheerleaders.

I like Dru but he's not Bolton. Teams still have to run the ball and the difference with Bolton in the middle was pretty dramatic. We were getting gashed at times during the games when Nick went out. Hasn't happened once since he returned.

Tyreek is a lot scarier than Diggs.

Sneed gonna put the clamps on him too...again

So f'n stoked for this.

Gonna be a fun matchup.

He's not nearly as fast off the line as Hill but he's a bigger guy; Sneed's gonna struggle a little more to body him like he did to Hill. Though Hill, being shorter but still a ball of muscle, has got to be difficult to wrangle like that in his own right.

I'm looking forward to it. Those guys are going to beat the absolute shit out of each other and at some point, the dude that's losing the matchup, is likely to get himself an unsportsmanlike penalty in the process.

The exact moment Diggs agreed to wear the puffy sweater

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Not trying to quibble, but after reading your post I looked both players up. Innerwebs have them both at 191 pounds with Diggs being 2 inches taller. I was surprised as I also thought Diggs was quite a bit bigger than Reek.

In that earlier game this season, Diggs had 11 targets, 4 receptions, 24 yards, 0 TDs, and I would bet Mr. Sneed had the coverage on most of them.

In my opinion, this is just the circle closing. 30 years ago and one week we went overtime to beat the Steelers after an incredible late fourth-quarter come back to force overtime. The blocked punt by Keith Cash, the recovery in the air by Freddie Jones, and the fourth down pass from Montana to Barnett to tie it.

30 years ago today, yes, January 16, 1994 the Chiefs went into Houston, a heavy underdog, and beat the Oilers to go to the AFC championship game.

The divisional opponent may be different, but the result is going to be the same.

This team is going to be our favorite team of all time.

Yeah, but that would be an extension that wouldn’t have big cap hits for 3-4 years.

Same goes for McDuffie.

Obviously, wrong thread. But I’m not deleting.

We had a play vs the Fins where Bolton was the only defender in front of (IIRC) a screen and was blocked. Dude matter-of-factly shed the block and immediately brought down the ball-carrier, as though it was no big deal, even playing with one hand.

He's a badass mother****er and his focus/vice is ball. That's it. That's the best way I can describe him. He's that dude you want in the phone booth between the tackles 'cause that's where he lives.

Yup. I legitimately feel like he and Sneed set the tone for being physical. So when he went out there was def a drop in run defense because most of that IS being physical. Nick literally violently stops whoever he is tackling. It's a trait that I find hard to explain but had it in a few players I coached.

So he and Sneed IMO are tone setters and those are hard to find. I feel like we didn't have that for years and years after DT and Smith etc were gone.

Well in that AFCCG Montana was knocked out with a concussion. Let’s hope that part doesn’t happen again.

PFF's top 100 free agents:

I would pay that in a nano-second. Hell give him 4 or 5 years at that salary please.

Chris Jones is #1 FWIW:

Love Jones, but I would not want to be the team saddled with that contract.

I would be beyond pissed if Sneed signed for that number somewhere else

A good rule of thumb by my way of thinking is:

You do that second contract for a great player. Pay the man.

Be very wary of the third.

Surprised they have him so high on the top FA list considering they never evaluate him very high. But if they can sign him for that, then it would be a huge win for KC.

You could sign DJ Reader and Fletcher Cox and still have enough left over to sign Tranquill for what Jones would cost you.

If you can get Sneed for less than $18M per year compared to Jones at $30M per year, I think you go with Sneed. Maybe spend the $12M difference on the receiving group.

Sneed to the Pro Bowl after all...

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Fletch makes alot of sense.

But they're also older.

No one is going to take less money in their 2nd contract though. We say that all the time and it just never happens.

That was kinda what I was getting at. If he keeps up this pace, we just need to be prepared to pay him ALOT.

At least he's got a good sense of humor about it.

Congratulations L’Darius! :)

Truly awesome to see this man finally getting the recognition he deserves, even though it's likely to raise his price tag.

Jason McCourty has been heaping praise on him all week on NFLN's Good Morning Football too, along with Kyle Brandt, as some others have mentioned.

Sneed has had one of the best seasons for a CB in the history of the NFL.

Besides Deion, has there ever been another CB that traveled with opponents #1 all year and completely erased everyone?

Unfortunately he wasn't snagging the picks needed to draw attention.

18.8m is the anticipated tag number for CB in 2024.

That’s a no brainer, right?

Then we hope CJ95s FA market isn’t as strong as he hoped it would be and we are able to bring him back at a number both sides can make work. Of course that’s being very optimistic.

Chris is gonna get 30 mil from someone.

It is what it is.

I dont see CJ coming back. Especially with how the offseason played out. He wants his money. Let him go get it.

Pass.

It will be interesting to see what he gets, and more importantly how it’s structured. He’s going to be 30 years old in playing age. This is supposed to be the biggest cap increase in history, so we’ll see.

I think if a fair deal was going to get made, it would have been made this last offseason, unfortunately.

He's a force on the inside, it's gonna make it tougher on the other DL once he's gone. He's been an all time Chief.

But it is what it is. They aren't paying him what he wants, he's adamant he wants that.

Jaylon Johnson of the Bears is looking for AT LEAST 22 mil AAV. Jaire Alexander of the Packers is currently 21mil AAV.

https://sports.yahoo.com/jaylon-john...204126378.html

I'd use the tag on Sneed before I let him walk.

I'm sure Veach has already floated an offer or two - I think you aim for something like 3 years / $65m with most of it guaranteed. Pay a little more for the shorter terms. If they want to risk the injury next year, slap the tag.

Losing Jones is going to sting, but all you can do at this point is probably make a strong offer and see how bad he wants to leave the organization.

They offered Chris 27.5, he wants 30.

Go get it if you want. It won't be here.

Same with Sneed. If he wants to be 22 per....it ain't happening here.

You're right on Chris. You might be right on Sneed.

But they'll have the tag leverage to use there and so, maybe he does take 20.

You know Veach loves Sneed. Drafted him and he is still young. Then Andy comes out and says he's been the best corner in football. He and McDuffie together allows Spags to do all kinds of crazy shit.

He isn't wearing another uniform in 2024.

They'll tag him, but you're probably into the "won't show up til he has to" stuff.

They're not dumb. If there was a deal to be done, it probably woulda been done last offseason.

I don't think so either, unless his demands are out there somewhere off the wall. Then it'll be tag time.

I’d really hate to see him go to Houston or Cincy.

I would disagree from the POV that I didn’t even think an extension was a good idea until seeing this season play out.

He had the funky knee going on dating back to even last year - and hey, if that thing is a ticking time bomb, we still may not want to extend.

But after his play this year, if the medicals check out, let’s roll. I think the secondary as currently constructed plays into how Spags likes to run his scheme. Still need to build along the DL, but I think you can do that still while keeping LJ.

Tag him twice

With Creed and Bolton due the year to follow, that might be less ideal

All those good draft picks.... the bill is coming due pretty quick here :popcorn:

Only 52.5 over 3 years for Sneed would be a goddamn steal. I think he's getting way more than that.

Yeah - we need to see some extensions this off-season.

We don't want to keep taking guys past their FA season, IMO. Especially when they've established their level of play. There's really no reason NOT to get a deal done with Creed. The market for him is established. If you don't want to play in that market, you may be best off trading him and getting started on a replacement while retaining Allegretti as an emergency option.

Creed should be an easy, if expensive, extension. Bolton is a more open question but if he would take a Logan Wilson deal, you get that one done as well.

But if you're going to keep a young core together, taking them all to FA is a rough way to do it.

Absolutely. I really would love to see both Creed and Bolton taken care of. Make Creed the highest paid center or somewhere close, but Bolton would need to take something in that 10m per year range. I love Bolton. Can't pay him like he's Roquan. I personally would like to see deals for him and Tranquill (on a 2-year deal) to return as our primary LBs.

Then, who knows. Maybe you run into a spot where you can afford to tag Sneed or Trey.

Guys need to remember....we're winning. Alot. And not just wins, but legit championship wins.

So guys can check that off their box and then look at the other thing they need to check off. Creed is probably an easy one. Bolton too.

But don't get into tagging a guy 2 times or home town discounts. It's just a letdown.

That's the only way you're ever gonna get any value in these FA deals.

You let guys get into that last year.....it could go multiple ways on you.

Players don't want to do that anymore. And it's gonna pay off majorly for Sneed. He's made so much money this year.

Would have been foolish to take a deal last year

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That's an AMAZING Mic'd dude. That dude is awesome.

"Get your hands out your pockets, 11!"

LMAO

"Take my ass home!"

LMAO Love it.

I don’t think there’s been a more physical corner duo in the NFL since Sherman and Browner in Seattle, but our guys can cover even better than they could.

I love these guys so goddamn much.