The "journalist" is allegedly Schefter.

Not allegedly

Ah, so it's actually out now. Last I read yesterday they'd kind of vaguely mentioned it was him without outright confirming it.

Weren't McVay, Shanahan, and LaFleur all at Washington around this time...?

You wanna talk about opening pandora's box...yeesh...

The good news is that this might get Bieniemy the job.

Granted, you're not gonna get 7 more years of mediocrity out of him, but you'll probably get 3-4 before they move on and in the process we'll get a couple of draft picks...

Never a big fan of Gruden's often condescending attitude when he speaks. However this politically correct mob rule is ruining lives and this nation. Few among us have never said, thought or written something others might find offensive. Limits to our freedoms here should only be narrowly and carefully
proscribed, such as "fire" in a crowded theater or "bomb" on an airplane.

How else do you think Schefter got his access? LMAO

Exactly.

This is the sausage getting made fellas.

All these guys who "know a guy" have given a whole lot of handjobs to get that insider intel.

Learned it from others. Not sure if it was meant to be racist. I am 52. Iowa.
Never said Tiger FWIW.

But in the age of wokeism-there is no forgiveness. Saying something that was not meant to be taken that way is still a chance to destroy someone.

Not forgiving chuckie. Not really paying attention to him. Just the raiders raidering.


this world is ****ed up in so many ways. Innocent things are twisted into racially motivated statements by others that have no clue.

Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will make me cancel you.
off to DC

I think the way bigger story here is yet again the corrupt and powerful have found a way to do the worst of the worst things, yet successfully divert your attention by lobbing everyone else under the bus. How in the hell is this even a story about gruden and schefter while Snyder goes completely untouched. The woke pitchforks are focused on gruden and the opposite side is screaming cancel culture. Meanwhile the biggest villains just slide off into the background. How is it possible that after all the WFT bullshit, Snyder has become more powerful? That the worse this gets for gruden and schefter, the better it gets for Snyder, even though he's the reason for the investigation?

What gruden did was stupid and he deserves some shit for it. But it's just incredible that an espn guy who now coaches the raiders is the focal point of a leak that's supposed to be about the redskins.

Well, it may **** him over now that it's become public
Seen other journalists point at it and say "no, that's not normal behavior" even though it almost assuredly is. He's the top dog in that world, along with Rapoport, and it'll be interesting to see who tries to knock him down the ladder.

Nobody will. That's how all the top level insiders work.

Kevin Durant: "Pale pasty cum guzzling bitch!" LMAO:LOL:LMAO :clap:

Gruden: "Rubber lips" sucks and the NFL commish is a bundle of sticks :#:cuss: Cancel him for LIFE! He's a homophobic racist!

The Sausage King of Detroit is on the case.

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There is definitely a double standard. But it was convenient for the NFL and DeMaurice Smith. Agendas at work.

That's part of the central consensus we are circling. . .

It's not that cancel culture does or doesn't exist, or is or isn't merited, so much as it's capricious and prone to manipulation.

It's a Sword of Damocles that can keep aspirants to power in check.

Plenty have skeletons in their closet, not everyone, but plenty. And most know they can navigate, . . . but so long as they play along and don't make waves.

Grudens MISTAKE was writing the emails, but that wasn't his crime. His CRIME was not having enough powerful friends for his current profile.

There’s plenty of white guys with gold jackets that have said worse. They should be ejected from the hof

Nearly everyone has said something inappropriate or racist or homophobic at some point in their life. Black, Brown, White, doesn't matter. We all **** around and say that shit. This is only an issue because Gruden was dumb enough to type it out in emails. Maybe he was drunk during those emails, who knows.

FIFY

You’re probably right. I’ll bet there’s plenty of white hof ers that have emailed worse in the last 20 years. They should investigate players past and present emails, social media and written correspondence for similar atrocities and punish the guilty.

It's also possible to recover from stuff like this, but it requires actually being contrite. If he'd immediately come out and explained that he didn't realize 10 years ago how that kind of language affected people, that some of it is deeply ingrained in his vocabulary and that he's trying to change that, and that recent events have opened his eyes on these issues and he's trying to be an advocate moving forward, he probably would have taken some heat, but it would have eventually blown over. A giant donation to some prominent anti-discrimination organizations would help as well.

However, people see through insincerity, and he doesn't exactly strike me as the contrite type.

It’s not just the e-mail.

He flat out lied on Friday about them and hasn’t said anything about he’s tried to be better or own up to what he said.

Agree that this inquisition should begin immediately. Root out all who have sinned in the past, and strip them from their respective so-called "Rings of Honor". Actually might be easier to just set-up Rings of Shame and move them over so that their sins aren't forgotten by future generations.

It seems hard to envision Gruden being able to talk his way out of this, but I agree your approach would have given him a much better chance. Honestly I'll miss having Chucky around in some capacity. His personality and ego and everything else added entertainment value to the NFL. Ultimately that same "don't give a ****" attitude that was fun to watch is what did him in.

Phase one: Gruden is fired and stripped of his honors.

Phase two should be the elimination of anyone who owned, worked for, played for, or in any way supported the Redskins. They were perfectly willing, proud even, to use a racial slur in public for 80 years. The NFL encouraged it an profited by it. How is that any less worse than what Gruden did?


Phase three should be the elimination anyone who owned, worked for, played for, or in any way supported the Broncos. In fact, we may need to switch phase two and three.

I hope he goes scorched earth on everything NFL and ESPN.

I wonder if there was a deal to resign instead of being fired in exchange for some extra cash and an agreement to play nice.

A Jon Gruden podcast where he goes full dark-side is probably his best move at this point.

The way he abruptly left, I don't think he does that because of a few stupid comments. He could've easily just taken a leave of absence. Mark Davis would've thrown a fit. If he had dirt on the NFL why would he bail out this quickly.

Maybe this has something to do with his brother.

Probably because he doesn't really want to work any more. It took a $100M contract to get him back. The Raiders had been trying for years to get him coaching again.

The owners met with Gruden before his decision to resign was made. So this little leak was the perfect opportunity to get out and also collect a nice fat check that saved the Raiders a little money because his contract was guaranteed.

shitshow LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just spoke with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> owner Mark Davis: &quot;I have no comment. Ask the NFL. They have all the answers.&quot; Also confirmed that Mike Mayock remains GM and now has 51 percent control of roster decisions, with interim coach Rich Bisaccia at 49 percent. Was Gruden 51/Mayock 49 before.</p>&mdash; Paul Gutierrez (@PGutierrezESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/PGutierrezESPN/status/1448337698024947714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

NFL put a gun to that mans head.

How do you split roster decisions 51/49?

They should let Kamala Harris decide in case of a tie...

I'm certain it means that Mayock can override the other guy anytime he likes.

If that's what it takes to make him get a new haircut, then so be it.

"Now" Mayock has say in roster decisions. Be interesting how this plays out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVgRLyImJ3U

Florio said all but this...said the the NFL was going to keep leaking e-mails until they fired him which is something else....

I've said before that I felt Gruden was making the early round picks with Mayock doing the later rounds.

How many times did Gruden F up?

I think my favorite hypocrisy so far has been Stephan A Smith going on about Gruden and all of this.

Stephan A was suspended for domestic violence comments he made on ESPN in 2014 where he blames Ray Rice's wife and was reprimanded several months ago and took leave over making xenophobic remarks about Shoehi Ohtani.

Yet he is on CNN running his mouth about Gruden.

I don't feel sorry for gruden at all, he's a dumb asshole who deserved to be knocked down a few pegs. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't find any statements of former players defending him.

Edit: Ah crap I did find a couple after rephrasing it...charles woodson.

Did Gruden deserve to have his career destroyed because the NFL found his e-mails useful in their attempt to prop up DeMaurice Smith and help keep him in his NFLPA leadership role?

I am not suggesting Gruden deserves sympathy... he was dumb enough to send these incriminating e-mails to an NFL-affiliated e-mail address and gave the league the ammunition to destroy him... but it is pretty brazen of the NFL to so blatantly end a HC's career for their own strategic interests.

Tony Dungy and Tim Brown as well

For me its not so much about Gruden, as he can now go build himself a private island out of stacks of $100 bills... its that its just more cancel culture nonsense, digging into someones past from 10-11 years ago in an attempt to ruin their lives

This was less about cancel culture and way more about the rich and powerful throwing someone under the bus to save their own ass. The only reason these emails were dug up was because of a legitimate investigation. The main reason these emails were leaked is because somebody is trying to protect their ass and is destroying gruden and schefter as collateral damage.

So...Gruden was a warning shot to someone else?

Yeah, thats true as well... but now that the sports press has jumped in, its morphed into something akin to cancel culture

Lord I sure hope the Chiefs never get dragged into anything like this...

Raiders owner Mark Davis doesn’t seem to be very happy about the events that resulted in the resignation of coach Jon Gruden.

Via Paul Gutierrez of ESPN.com, Davis was asked about Gruden’s departure on Wednesday.

“I have no comment,” Davis said. And then he had a comment.

“Ask the NFL. They have all the answers.”

That’s a clear indication of frustration over the perception/reality that the NFL pressured Davis to fire Gruden, or Gruden to quit under threat of termination. Indeed, after Davis received some of the emails, he didn’t fire Gruden or pressure him to resign. It was only after someone leaked some of the emails to the media on Monday (following an initial leak on Friday) that the situation became untenable.

It’s fair to wonder whether Davis would have kept Gruden if the emails hadn’t been leaked. Given the loyalty Davis showed to Gruden even when Gruden was 19-29 through three full seasons and wasn’t remotely close to the host seat, that’s not a stretch.

Davis wants to win, and he surely believed Gruden helps the team more than Rich Bisaccia or any other interim options. Now, Davis seems to be miffed at the NFL for selectively utilizing otherwise confidential materials from the Washington Football Team investigation to force Gruden out.

They weren't going to fire Gruden

It wasn't until the emails got leaked that it forced their hand in fear of the cancel brigade descending down upon the Raiders

This whole thing is wild and Snyder is a disaster. Turns out a big reason these emails specifically went public is because Snyder is suing Bruce Allen in a defamation suit because he didn't like what an India media company wrote about him. Snyder is a vindictive asshole.

What did McNair once say about letting criminals run the asylum?

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el oh el

The fact that Mark Davis isn't overjoyed he is out from that horrible contract is everything you need to know about how truly stupid he is.

Just replace him with a Chucky doll in a visor and call it good

Pretty sure its more personal than anything with him. He cherishes Grudens friendship and was apparently trying for 7 years to get him back on the Raiders until he finally got him. Then he had to fire him and it wasn't even his choice and he's the owner of the team.

He resigned.

He resigned after a meeting with the owners.

His resignation is nothing more than symbolic. He was fired.

The NFL has known all about Dan Snyder. He should have been dealt with long ago.

To the age of the emails, it does illustrate the measure of the man.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story...mpression=true

More on the India story. It's just wild. Not to mention the careless, or potentially intentional, redacting of all info except for some reason choosing not to redact grudens email address.

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I feel like the chiefs won't hire any more borderline reeruned hotheads after going through todd haley. The type of people who would get cancelled are mostly guys we wouldn't want. (not that I agree with cancel culture at all)

Nah his ego was too big to go out without completing the job. He does love the Raiders and fans but he is uber rich and is probably on his yacht drinking a fruity drink laughing. I am a Chucky fan because I am old but the team will probably be better without him to be totally honest. Still the same run run pass offense and does not know when to abandon the run.

I’m going to guess you are closer to Gruden’s age than those guys. I would be surprised if younger guys like that memorialize grouchy political stuff in work email. Those guys are ambitious and not cursing the world for making it so hard to be a white male heterosexual.

Gruden may not have had time to piss and moan about this and that if he was on an NFL staff and did not have a job that gave him too much free time.

I think this is about control.

The NFL wants a winner in Vegas and Sunday's loss vs CHI made it clear that isn't happening with Chuckie there.

Deshaun Watson will end up a Raider.

I’m 38 you son of a bitch lol…I kid I kid.

Yeah you’re probably right…who knows though at this point.

Everything 'woke' turns to s***. Donald Trump

:thumb:

Now that is being canceled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.You are nuts if you think they are gonna bring Watson in after what just happened.

This means the raiders will go hard core after Eric Bienemy.

Wonder what Al would have done. He was never one to cave to pressure from anybody

Excellent news! **** Gruden, was never a fan of him - sans being let go by the Raiders then beat them in the SB! That was karma as I have ever witnessed! After that victory, forget him! I hope this kills the Raiders season.

shut up and get out

Hes still getting a check. Gruden would have been better off hitting and groping women. He would still have a job.

Would've gladly fired Gruden on his own, I imagine. As far as NFL owners go, Al Davis was probably the most progressive of any of them.

Yeah.

He hired the first woman CEO in the NFL on top of hiring minorities as HCs -including the first black HC in NFL history.

See this is what I'm talking about, here goes the KC Star trying to drag Andy Reid into this mess

Thats where all of this woke cancel shit always leads... everyone eventually gets eaten by their supposed own, Reid doesn't owe ANYONE a comment on this, least of all the shitass KC Star

They're a filthy trash rag, barely fit to line a catbox with

https://www.yahoo.com/news/too-bad-k...212614762.html

Art Shell was a win-win for Davis. Got credit for the hire and got to run the team. I used to marvel at never seeing Art speaking into his headset during a game.

You don't think Reid could have said some shit like this?

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No I don't, he has no need to satisfy the screeching mobs desire for a statement in any way whatsoever... his feelings can remain his own, and if you don't like it get bent